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i also believe the op to be anxious and irrational because of the media coverage. i think many people are. the media was wrong about trump, and now they are d

i also believe the op to be anxious and irrational because of the media coverage. i think many people are. the media was wrong about trump, and now they are doubling down by stoking fear in the hearts of viewers. it's insanity. let's not talk about how these outlets are all owned by individuals and groups/interests opposing trump and his agenda. this is basic US partisan politics 101, and it's scaring people who are not used to it, or do not understand how it works, like this person who has lived here for 7 years and is now shocked that we do not live in a nation that would vote for basically a 3rd obama term. this is literally his first white president (lol, think about that) and now he lives in a racist shithole? come on. 2 of the deepest red states in the nation elected indian american republican governors. louisiana, and south carolina. the entire nation elected obama twice. california has yet to elect a non-white governor, or senator. has new york? i don't know, but i doubt it. silicon valley is still run by nearly 100% white people. the only time i've ever seen open racism was in boston massachusetts. notice how his justification for moving is "a chill in the air", "people look at me longer" .. these aren't words or actions by other people, these are feelings that arise internally from a heightened state of awareness due to anxiety. my parents immigrated here in the 80s and faced some really fucked up discrimination and have persevered and succeeded (and so have i) in a great country. if this person is going to throw away their 7 years of work and quarter million dollar income (immigrants making $250k, sounds like an awful place) for a "chill in the air" i say good riddance. they're in for a rude awakening when they meet their first canadian racist and their first canadian tax withholding.

charlesism 10y ago
In all seriousness, what do you figure they intend to do with that list of muslims? You seem very relaxed about the whole thing.
- kobeya 10y ago
  In all seriousness, if there is a national registry of Muslims created under a Trump presidency, I'll eat my hat. We are a nation of laws and the office of the president does not carry absolute power. The list of Muslims campaign promise runs afoul of so many limits on power, starting with the 1st amendment. It won't happen.
  - charlesism 10y ago
    It can happen if enough people, or even enough of the right people, want it to. Eg: http://history.howstuffworks.com/history-vs-myth/japanese-internment-camp3.htm http://history.howstuffworks.com/history-vs-myth/japanese-in...
    - beachstartup 10y ago
      FDR was a democrat.
    - kobeya 10y ago
      This is not the 40's. We are not embroiled in World War 2.
      - charlesism 10y ago
        > This is not the 40's. Investors actually have a name for that. They call it the "This time is different" fallacy.
        beachstartup 10y ago
        for what it's worth, i think if there continues to be self-proclaimed terrorist attacks on the US, they will definitely start rounding people up. this time is not different.
obviousthrow 10y ago
A 300-word HN comment does not encompass everything about my life and my decisions. Please understand that there are good reasons for what I'm doing - I am a rational human being, after all, and I'm not going to write essays that go over the hundreds of hours of thought, deliberation and research that lies behind my decision. I'm very glad your parents (and you) succeeded here. And the US is undoubtedly a great country. However, in my particular case, in my particular circumstances, I have made this decision. If you feel that I'm being silly, and "good riddance" to me, that's your prerogative. People are complex beings, and I will afford you the courtesy that you denied me.
- kobeya 10y ago
  Your overreaction is stirring up divisive reactions that aren't helping constructive discourse. If you want to move, fine, do what is best for your family. But don't be surprised that HN calls you out for providing insufficient evidence for your claims.
glenndebacker 10y ago
"the media was wrong about trump, and now they are doubling down by stoking fear in the hearts of viewers. " Granted I don't live in the states so I can't comment on the media but have you seen his twitter account the last couple of day? Doesn't seem to be the most stable guy running the show. Not talking about the scary reactions you will see from a lot of trump supporters with regards of those tweets. I can only imagine what it must be for some people living in a society like this. And it's seems that this is only the beginning.

charlesism 10y ago

In all seriousness, what do you figure they intend to do with that list of muslims? You seem very relaxed about the whole thing.

kobeya 10y ago
In all seriousness, if there is a national registry of Muslims created under a Trump presidency, I'll eat my hat. We are a nation of laws and the office of the president does not carry absolute power. The list of Muslims campaign promise runs afoul of so many limits on power, starting with the 1st amendment. It won't happen.
- charlesism 10y ago
  It can happen if enough people, or even enough of the right people, want it to. Eg: http://history.howstuffworks.com/history-vs-myth/japanese-internment-camp3.htm http://history.howstuffworks.com/history-vs-myth/japanese-in...
  - beachstartup 10y ago
    FDR was a democrat.
  - kobeya 10y ago
    This is not the 40's. We are not embroiled in World War 2.
    - charlesism 10y ago
      > This is not the 40's. Investors actually have a name for that. They call it the "This time is different" fallacy.
      - beachstartup 10y ago
        for what it's worth, i think if there continues to be self-proclaimed terrorist attacks on the US, they will definitely start rounding people up. this time is not different.

obviousthrow 10y ago

A 300-word HN comment does not encompass everything about my life and my decisions. Please understand that there are good reasons for what I'm doing - I am a rational human being, after all, and I'm not going to write essays that go over the hundreds of hours of thought, deliberation and research that lies behind my decision. I'm very glad your parents (and you) succeeded here. And the US is undoubtedly a great country. However, in my particular case, in my particular circumstances, I have made this decision. If you feel that I'm being silly, and "good riddance" to me, that's your prerogative. People are complex beings, and I will afford you the courtesy that you denied me.

kobeya 10y ago
Your overreaction is stirring up divisive reactions that aren't helping constructive discourse. If you want to move, fine, do what is best for your family. But don't be surprised that HN calls you out for providing insufficient evidence for your claims.

glenndebacker 10y ago

"the media was wrong about trump, and now they are doubling down by stoking fear in the hearts of viewers. " Granted I don't live in the states so I can't comment on the media but have you seen his twitter account the last couple of day? Doesn't seem to be the most stable guy running the show. Not talking about the scary reactions you will see from a lot of trump supporters with regards of those tweets. I can only imagine what it must be for some people living in a society like this. And it's seems that this is only the beginning.