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How does that work for me? I like to start at 7:30am. By 9:06 my productivity is starting to peak for the day. Yes, I knock off early too.

Nadya 10y ago
I imagine there can be exceptions. The rules are meant for productivity - if someone is more productive on a slightly different schedule I imagine they'd be for it, assuming their actual motivations are honest with their claims. I'm the only one at my company who comes in several hours before opening hours. I also leave several hours before closing. I made a personal request for this and my company obliged. Ironically, I'm writing this nearing midnight on a Sunday...from work. E: @ezl I'm pretty sure the point of the parent's question was an implied: "If I was an employee there, how would this work for [people like] me?"
- jacalata 10y ago
  I'm pretty sure ezl's answer implied "it wouldn't, and so you shouldn't work there"
ezl 10y ago
it doesn't. companies don't need a system that works for everyone. they need a system that works for their employees.
ohwaitnvm 10y ago
Pivotal has nearly 100% of developer time spent pairing. This requires entire teams to be in sync on in/out and lunch schedules, else there will be non-pairing time. That's not the end of the world, but most teams don't have code review, favoring the live review of paired development. While at Pivotal, I did observe the rare team with an 8AM start instead of 9, but as far as I know everyone opted into being on an alternative schedule, and it was for out-of-time-zone client work to enable better communication with the client.
systemtest 10y ago
Similar for me. My energy buildup starts at 12:00 and peaks at around 19:00-20:00 so I start as late as possible and try to put as much meetings as possible in the morning.
beejiu 10y ago
Maybe it doesn't have to work for you? It's a team sport.
- gaius 10y ago
  This isn't the military, there is no higher purpose or mission. This is about shareholder value. Why sacrifice yourself for some shareholders you've never met in a one-sided deal, when you can just go work for someone who is willing to meet you halfway?
  - beejiu 10y ago
    That's my point: go work somewhere else. You can't work in a team that does pair programming and choose to work at different times. It's about culture match. If you don't fit the team, don't expect the team to fit you.
chewyfruitloop 10y ago
that early is fine if you don't have kids... or have kids who start school at some stupid time like 7am.... my kids don't start school until 8:50... so starting before 9 is completely unrealistic unless i get a massive pay rise to cover child care for 2 kids before school 5 days a week
- singingfish 10y ago
  It used to be fine when I was 100% remote ;). These days the kids are a bit older and I like to be home earlier to be able to hang out with them in the afternevening.
UK-AL 10y ago
The simple answer is don't work there.

Nadya 10y ago

I imagine there can be exceptions. The rules are meant for productivity - if someone is more productive on a slightly different schedule I imagine they'd be for it, assuming their actual motivations are honest with their claims. I'm the only one at my company who comes in several hours before opening hours. I also leave several hours before closing. I made a personal request for this and my company obliged. Ironically, I'm writing this nearing midnight on a Sunday...from work. E: @ezl I'm pretty sure the point of the parent's question was an implied: "If I was an employee there, how would this work for [people like] me?"

jacalata 10y ago
I'm pretty sure ezl's answer implied "it wouldn't, and so you shouldn't work there"

ezl 10y ago

it doesn't. companies don't need a system that works for everyone. they need a system that works for their employees.

ohwaitnvm 10y ago

Pivotal has nearly 100% of developer time spent pairing. This requires entire teams to be in sync on in/out and lunch schedules, else there will be non-pairing time. That's not the end of the world, but most teams don't have code review, favoring the live review of paired development. While at Pivotal, I did observe the rare team with an 8AM start instead of 9, but as far as I know everyone opted into being on an alternative schedule, and it was for out-of-time-zone client work to enable better communication with the client.

systemtest 10y ago

Similar for me. My energy buildup starts at 12:00 and peaks at around 19:00-20:00 so I start as late as possible and try to put as much meetings as possible in the morning.

beejiu 10y ago

Maybe it doesn't have to work for you? It's a team sport.

gaius 10y ago
This isn't the military, there is no higher purpose or mission. This is about shareholder value. Why sacrifice yourself for some shareholders you've never met in a one-sided deal, when you can just go work for someone who is willing to meet you halfway?
- beejiu 10y ago
  That's my point: go work somewhere else. You can't work in a team that does pair programming and choose to work at different times. It's about culture match. If you don't fit the team, don't expect the team to fit you.

chewyfruitloop 10y ago

that early is fine if you don't have kids... or have kids who start school at some stupid time like 7am.... my kids don't start school until 8:50... so starting before 9 is completely unrealistic unless i get a massive pay rise to cover child care for 2 kids before school 5 days a week

singingfish 10y ago
It used to be fine when I was 100% remote ;). These days the kids are a bit older and I like to be home earlier to be able to hang out with them in the afternevening.

UK-AL 10y ago

The simple answer is don't work there.