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Ok, can we please start talking seriously about real container inspection programs at our shipping ports now?

by blahedo 17y ago

DenisM 17y ago
Containers get inspected at the ports, missiles are likely being launched before containers reach the port. Unless you are imagining a sinister plot to sneak a cruise missile inland I don't see how this would help.
- kjhgfghjklkjh 17y ago
  Big ships are vunerable, the Brits proved that to the Italians at Toranto, then the Japanese copied them at Pearl Harbor. So the only way you let your expensive $Bn carrier fleet near a tiny little 3rd world enemy is once you have comprehensively bombed the *&%$ out of their defenses. With this you could have finished bombing all their airfields, sunk their fleet and blown up all their tanks - then just as the USS Obama arrives off shore a 40' container in a parking lot opens it's doors and sinks it. Unless you are going to destroy every container, and every building that could hold a container in a country before approaching it you have a problem.
  - raganwald 17y ago
    > Big ships are vunerable, the Brits proved that to the Italians at Toranto If I have my facts correct, the Japanese also reminded the Limeys of it when the sunk the Prince of Wales and the Repulse after Sir Tom Phillips overruled suggestions that the fleet not move out of Singapore without air cover. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_Prince_of_Wales_and_Repulse http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_Prince_of_Wales_and_... (While Wikipedia says nothing other than reporting that he was killed, I read elsewhere that Sir Phillips declined to join the sailors abandoning ship.)
  - Semiapies 17y ago
    Depends. Unless it's launched from very close, I wouldn't presume that it could certainly get past the normal cordon of air defense around a carrier group. Perhaps a swarm attack from several or dozens of such launchers would overwhelm defenses, but suddenly the last-ditch defense isn't looking cheap anymore. If you're that country, you'd better hope the invaders aren't ready to send a second carrier group, or that a neighboring country isn't going to go, "Nice job on that carrier group - now we're rolling tanks and troops over your border, so get cracking on that welcoming ceremony in your capital," now that your defenses are toast.
  - DenisM 17y ago
    And inspecting containers arriving to US ports will help exactly how?

Ok, can we please start talking seriously about real container inspection programs at our shipping ports now?

by blahedo 17y ago

Ok, can we please start talking seriously about real container inspection programs at our shipping ports now?

Containers get inspected at the ports, missiles are likely being launched before containers reach the port. Unless you are imagining a sinister plot to sneak a cruise missile inland I don't see how this would help.

kjhgfghjklkjh 17y ago
Big ships are vunerable, the Brits proved that to the Italians at Toranto, then the Japanese copied them at Pearl Harbor. So the only way you let your expensive $Bn carrier fleet near a tiny little 3rd world enemy is once you have comprehensively bombed the *&%$ out of their defenses. With this you could have finished bombing all their airfields, sunk their fleet and blown up all their tanks - then just as the USS Obama arrives off shore a 40' container in a parking lot opens it's doors and sinks it. Unless you are going to destroy every container, and every building that could hold a container in a country before approaching it you have a problem.
- raganwald 17y ago
  > Big ships are vunerable, the Brits proved that to the Italians at Toranto If I have my facts correct, the Japanese also reminded the Limeys of it when the sunk the Prince of Wales and the Repulse after Sir Tom Phillips overruled suggestions that the fleet not move out of Singapore without air cover. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_Prince_of_Wales_and_Repulse http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_Prince_of_Wales_and_... (While Wikipedia says nothing other than reporting that he was killed, I read elsewhere that Sir Phillips declined to join the sailors abandoning ship.)
- Semiapies 17y ago
  Depends. Unless it's launched from very close, I wouldn't presume that it could certainly get past the normal cordon of air defense around a carrier group. Perhaps a swarm attack from several or dozens of such launchers would overwhelm defenses, but suddenly the last-ditch defense isn't looking cheap anymore. If you're that country, you'd better hope the invaders aren't ready to send a second carrier group, or that a neighboring country isn't going to go, "Nice job on that carrier group - now we're rolling tanks and troops over your border, so get cracking on that welcoming ceremony in your capital," now that your defenses are toast.
- DenisM 17y ago
  And inspecting containers arriving to US ports will help exactly how?