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I don't know. The next administration might actually be tougher re: pro-worker laws against multi-national importers of Chinese made stuff. This might not apply

by mythrwy 10y ago

I don't know. The next administration might actually be tougher re: pro-worker laws against multi-national importers of Chinese made stuff. This might not apply to unions necessarily though.

adamnemecek 10y ago
> re: pro-worker laws against multi-national importers of Chinese made stuff. The pro-worker stuff was just to attract that demographic, I'm pretty sure.
- mythrwy 10y ago
  Could be. But it might also be a convenient excuse to beat up the WalMarts (low wage importers) of the world.
- chrissnell 10y ago
  I think that people should give the Trump administration a chance. The GOP knows that blue collar whites were the force behind his election. He's going to have to deliver for these laborers if he wants to have a chance in 2020.
  - codecamper 10y ago
    Trump is not the GOP, he is a self serving billionaire. Two days ago his daughter, who oversees the Trump organization, is invited to a meeting with the Japanese PM. Today he is cutting deals with Indian businessmen who say they are more interested now that he is president.
  - woofyman 10y ago
    He'll just blame someone else for his failures.
  - sundaeofshock 10y ago
    I did give him a chance. He used it all up with his cabinet picks and the people on his transition team. I see nothing to suggest that his administration will be friendly towards labor, organized or not.
  - vacri 10y ago
    If Trump goes up against Walmart and actually makes life better for those blue-collar whites, I'll literally buy a hat and eat it. I doubt Trump will want a second term - he's made it now, and thumbed his nose at everyone. He'll find out that he can't just do what he wants as president and his days are ridiculously packed, and won't go for a second term.
    - masklinn 10y ago
      > He'll find out that he can't just do what he wants as president and his days are ridiculously packed, and won't go for a second term. Or he'll find out that he can leverage the position into making money and let his VP and cronies do the ruling work. The former is how things seem to be shaping up, and the latter is how Kasich reported the VP pitch he got (also matches Trump's desire to keep doing big rallies, not move in the White House and keep going on twitter tiffs).
      - mtberatwork 10y ago
        This is the playbook of virtually every Eastern European nation. Achieve power through demagoguery, enrich self and loyalists once in power. Rinse and repeat.
        masklinn 10y ago
        > This is the playbook of virtually every Eastern European nation. Or pretty much every "business strongman"[0] third-world regime really, Trevor Noah had a bit comparing Trump to South Africa's Jacob Zuma, it was less funny and more uncanny to see the parallels. And then things get dreadful when you realise a "graft and cronyism" Trump presidency is starting to look like a best-case scenario given his campaign statements and cabinet appointments. [0] as opposed to "military strongman"
      - vacri 10y ago
        Looks like you're on the money, and it's already underway. I found an article going into a little depth as to how managing his business empire and managing the presidency is going to make him a lot of money, and confuse the issue for others http://www.theage.com.au/business/comment-and-analysis/how-president-trump-could-use-the-white-house-to-enrich-himself-and-his-family-20161120-gstpc2.html http://www.theage.com.au/business/comment-and-analysis/how-p...
  - eropple 10y ago
    Trump's chances: - appointed as Vice President a guy who wants to electrocute gay kids to turn them straight - appointed as his senior strategist a literal-not-figurative white supremacist and anti-Semite who thinks Darth Vader is a role model (ain't making that up, either) - nominating as Attorney General a guy so profoundly tied to his white hoods that he couldn't get confirmed as a justice - claiming that he'll extend libel laws because his feelings are hurt That's four--and if you want to throw in the whole "bragging about sexual assault" thing, five through about thirty or so!--more than he'd deserved. Why should he continue to be spotted more?
    - masklinn 10y ago
      > who thinks Darth Vader is a role model (ain't making that up, either) Although you forgot to mention the other two role models of his are Satan and fucking Dick Cheney (source: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/steve-bannon-trump-tower-interview-trumps-strategist-plots-new-political-movement-948747 http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/steve-bannon-trump-tow...)
woofyman 10y ago
Trump gets to pick 3 of the 5 National Labor Relations Board members. That agency is currently at odds with a Trump owned Las Vegas hotel. http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/17/news/companies/trump-hotel-labor-dispute/ http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/17/news/companies/trump-hotel-l...
darpa_escapee 10y ago
That was rhetoric to attract a demographic that felt displaced by globalism and by an Other that wasn't white. Never once were unions touted as a solution, despite unions pushing for contracts that would prevent outsourcing and would set compensation plans for workers whose jobs were automated away or moved overseas.
- makomk 10y ago
  Unions are pro-Democrat (their members possibly not so much this election though). I really can't see Trump supporting them for multiple reasons.
TorKlingberg 10y ago
Do you want to bet? The Trump administration will not be pro-union.
luckydata 10y ago
I cannot fathom where your doubts could be possibly coming from.

by mythrwy 10y ago

I don't know. The next administration might actually be tougher re: pro-worker laws against multi-national importers of Chinese made stuff. This might not apply to unions necessarily though.

adamnemecek 10y ago

> re: pro-worker laws against multi-national importers of Chinese made stuff. The pro-worker stuff was just to attract that demographic, I'm pretty sure.

mythrwy 10y ago
Could be. But it might also be a convenient excuse to beat up the WalMarts (low wage importers) of the world.
chrissnell 10y ago
I think that people should give the Trump administration a chance. The GOP knows that blue collar whites were the force behind his election. He's going to have to deliver for these laborers if he wants to have a chance in 2020.
- codecamper 10y ago
  Trump is not the GOP, he is a self serving billionaire. Two days ago his daughter, who oversees the Trump organization, is invited to a meeting with the Japanese PM. Today he is cutting deals with Indian businessmen who say they are more interested now that he is president.
- woofyman 10y ago
  He'll just blame someone else for his failures.
- sundaeofshock 10y ago
  I did give him a chance. He used it all up with his cabinet picks and the people on his transition team. I see nothing to suggest that his administration will be friendly towards labor, organized or not.
- vacri 10y ago
  If Trump goes up against Walmart and actually makes life better for those blue-collar whites, I'll literally buy a hat and eat it. I doubt Trump will want a second term - he's made it now, and thumbed his nose at everyone. He'll find out that he can't just do what he wants as president and his days are ridiculously packed, and won't go for a second term.
  - masklinn 10y ago
    > He'll find out that he can't just do what he wants as president and his days are ridiculously packed, and won't go for a second term. Or he'll find out that he can leverage the position into making money and let his VP and cronies do the ruling work. The former is how things seem to be shaping up, and the latter is how Kasich reported the VP pitch he got (also matches Trump's desire to keep doing big rallies, not move in the White House and keep going on twitter tiffs).
    - mtberatwork 10y ago
      This is the playbook of virtually every Eastern European nation. Achieve power through demagoguery, enrich self and loyalists once in power. Rinse and repeat.
      - masklinn 10y ago
        > This is the playbook of virtually every Eastern European nation. Or pretty much every "business strongman"[0] third-world regime really, Trevor Noah had a bit comparing Trump to South Africa's Jacob Zuma, it was less funny and more uncanny to see the parallels. And then things get dreadful when you realise a "graft and cronyism" Trump presidency is starting to look like a best-case scenario given his campaign statements and cabinet appointments. [0] as opposed to "military strongman"
    - vacri 10y ago
      Looks like you're on the money, and it's already underway. I found an article going into a little depth as to how managing his business empire and managing the presidency is going to make him a lot of money, and confuse the issue for others http://www.theage.com.au/business/comment-and-analysis/how-president-trump-could-use-the-white-house-to-enrich-himself-and-his-family-20161120-gstpc2.html http://www.theage.com.au/business/comment-and-analysis/how-p...
- eropple 10y ago
  Trump's chances: - appointed as Vice President a guy who wants to electrocute gay kids to turn them straight - appointed as his senior strategist a literal-not-figurative white supremacist and anti-Semite who thinks Darth Vader is a role model (ain't making that up, either) - nominating as Attorney General a guy so profoundly tied to his white hoods that he couldn't get confirmed as a justice - claiming that he'll extend libel laws because his feelings are hurt That's four--and if you want to throw in the whole "bragging about sexual assault" thing, five through about thirty or so!--more than he'd deserved. Why should he continue to be spotted more?
  - masklinn 10y ago
    > who thinks Darth Vader is a role model (ain't making that up, either) Although you forgot to mention the other two role models of his are Satan and fucking Dick Cheney (source: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/steve-bannon-trump-tower-interview-trumps-strategist-plots-new-political-movement-948747 http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/steve-bannon-trump-tow...)

woofyman 10y ago

Trump gets to pick 3 of the 5 National Labor Relations Board members. That agency is currently at odds with a Trump owned Las Vegas hotel. http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/17/news/companies/trump-hotel-labor-dispute/ http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/17/news/companies/trump-hotel-l...

darpa_escapee 10y ago

That was rhetoric to attract a demographic that felt displaced by globalism and by an Other that wasn't white. Never once were unions touted as a solution, despite unions pushing for contracts that would prevent outsourcing and would set compensation plans for workers whose jobs were automated away or moved overseas.

makomk 10y ago
Unions are pro-Democrat (their members possibly not so much this election though). I really can't see Trump supporting them for multiple reasons.

TorKlingberg 10y ago

Do you want to bet? The Trump administration will not be pro-union.

luckydata 10y ago

I cannot fathom where your doubts could be possibly coming from.