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Show HN: StockDroids.com – A curated list of near-stock Android devices
- carussell 10y agoThe item I'd like to see added to the device infobox is an answer to the question "Can I run my own AOSP on this?", backed up by a link to some wiki or blog post of someone demonstrating it.
- TaylorAlexander 10y agoDefinitely. I'm also keenly interested in phones that can run Ubuntu touch, though that list is small.
- yincrash 10y agohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
- duskwuff 10y ago"Small" is an understatement. The Ubuntu Touch device list [1] lists a total of eight officially supported devices. The Nexus 4 and Nexus 7 are both out of production, and none of the BQ or Meizu phones are listed on their web sites anymore. The BQ Aquarius M10 tablet still shows up on their web site, but it's a tablet, not a phone. So the short and the long of it is: Ubuntu Touch, as a phone operating system, is dead. It's probably not long for this world on tablets either, considering that the only supported device is a single product from an obscure Spanish manufacturer. [1]: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
- butz 10y agoSome Sony Xperia phones have AOSP source available: http://developer.sonymobile.com/open-devices/list-of-devices-and-resources/ http://developer.sonymobile.com/open-devices/list-of-devices... , would be nice to see them listed.
- fastball 10y agoLove it. When I was buying a budget android phone a few months ago, this was my primary criterion for purchasing. Wish it'd been around sooner.
- lewiscollard 10y agoI am all into finding stock Androids, and the replacement for my stock-Android Chinese eBay special phone will probably be chosen through your site. :) But I think you might want to put some effort into making this site smaller. It's currently 3.3 megabytes for a list of 60 phones with small thumbnails and a list of tech specs.
- TaylorAlexander 10y agoSounds excellent to me. I think many modern webpages are 10's of megabytes (which is lame). I guess the specific audience of people looking for good stock phones might be operating off of a low cost data plan though? Otherwise of the many things the author could work on (improve curation, link to Swappa for purchase), I wonder if shaving a megabyte off the size is the most pressing issue.
- oDot 10y agoIt is planned but as sibling comment suggests, in the backlog for the moment. If anyone is interested in the technical details -- I am using an angular-cli version that doesn't support AOT compilation so no tree shaking. Also no Angular Universal, therefore a loading screen. I hate spinners. And hamburger menus.
- jotto 10y agoI made https://www.prerender.cloud/ https://www.prerender.cloud/ and it _might_ be useful here - that is, solving that initial 3.3mb loading penalty for the JS. But it may require removing your loading screen so the screen doesn't flash to loading after the initial prerendered payload comes down.
- stryk 10y agoThis is fantastic! Both in terms of information provided AND in the way it is displayed and presented. Simple yet extremely functional and easy to use. Very nice
- ikeboy 10y agoA couple of months ago I got a new phone. I had a fairly short list of needs: 1. Micro sd slot 2. Supports sprint in the US 3. Supports cyanogenmod 4. Given those, it should be powerful as possible To my surprise, none of the 2016 flagships were acceptable. The Nexus line did not have a micro sd slot. Samsung s7 did not have cyanogenmod. Oneplus 3 did not support sprint. Most other phones were just not powerful, slow processors, etc. I ended up settling for a 2015 moto x pure (style in op). Still disappointed that I couldn't get one with an 820 processor. Are my needs that exotic that nobody cares about them? Or have the phone companies just dropped the ball?
- ergo14 10y agoProbably Xiaomi MI5 with cyanogen would fit the bill - not sure about point 2 since I'm in the EU.
- ikeboy 10y agoLooks like it doesn't support a micro sd card.
- ergo14 10y agoAh wait, thats possible - i thought it can mount sd card in one of sim slots like my honor 6 plus could.
- oDot 10y agoI think it's the 5s with CDMA, but whatever it is double check the bands before purchasing an imported phone, especially Chinese.
- oDot 10y agoI don't think any demand is exotic on it's own, but to get them all together you have to be pretty lucky. You'll need a company that can make a water resistant phone with a card slot, or is willing to give up the water resistant feature. You'll need that company to be able to ship a CDMA version, which is harder when GSM is more common. You'll need that company to not be a *ick company and have drivers for their hardware. You'll need that company to achieve all of that and still be able to get a 820 and keep expected margins.
- Normal_gaussian 10y agoSearching on resolution doesn't work The CPU model is way to indirect a comparison to be useful I want AMOLED Aside from that a reasonable attempt at a solution
- oDot 10y agoWill check that, thanks
- voltagex_ 10y agoNeeds a "last update" column - my Moto X Style is near stock, but is on 6.0 and a May 2016 patch level.
- oDot 10y agoThanks everyone for the nice comments! Here is what's in the works. Hopefully answering most of your requests: - Upgradability (how fast does the phone get official updates) - Better specs (sent out emails to the companies yesterday) - Rootability - Unlockable Bootloader - CM port available - Non-stock phones with CM port
- thedays 10y agoThis is great! I like how the filtering quickly lets you drill down and find phones that meet your criteria. My suggestions for improving this would be to add: - Dual SIM - many buyers, esp. in developing countries and frequent travellers prefer dual-SIM phones. - Network Bands - many people have a preferred mobile network, e.g. Verizon or T-Mobile in the US, Telstra in Australia, etc. Each of these networks only supports specific frequency bands for 3G and 4G. So I'd suggest adding in a search-based filter which allows a user to find phones that support a particular band, e.g. 28 that their favorite mobile network uses.
- seltzered_ 10y agoThanks for making this! Finding myself shopping for a replacement phone, and so far have decided to settle with waiting unless I see a decent deal on a nexus 6p. Would suggest also adding whether the phone supports a removable battery/extended battery. That seems to be a feature that is nearly dead on new android phones these days, except for the lg v10 and the moto z (via the moto mod battery case). Also seconding the 'last update' column - I'm largely trying to forego most of my power-user desires for sd slots/removable batteries for a nexus phone because of just how many security issues with android seem to require it to be up-to-date. Oh yeah, would also like a 'fingerprint reader' column - it's becoming near-ubiquitous these days though some phones from last year don't have it (e.g. moto x)
- jhasse 10y agoThe new LG V20 and the LG G5 also have a replaceable battery.
- seltzered_ 10y agoYeah, forgot about those! Been taking a wait-and-see approach to LG phones due to all the bootloop issues the G4 (and seemingly some of the v10's) have been having.
- dman 10y agoThe V20 is looking good so far. Best phone I have owned yet.
- mcpherrinm 10y agoI've been happy with the G5. I don't use the LG launcher and keyboard, so it feels close enough to stock Android.
- wernercd 10y ago"Would suggest also adding whether the phone supports a removable battery/extended battery." * Carrier Support (GSM vs CDMA) * "Modes" (Frequencies, bands,whatever you want to call it) * Sim card size (Normal 3FF, Nano 4FF) * Removable Battery * Wireless charging (I must have Qi) * Fingerprint Comparison vs other phones (I'd love to compare these vs my Note 3. Yes... 3.) would be nice, but probably a bit beyond the scope of this. Otherwise, awesome tool.
- butz 10y agoAvailability row would be useful, e.g. you cannot purchase new Nexus 5 any more.
- bossx 10y agoUseful comparison layout, please add battery size & life
- jewbacca 10y agoParallel conversation on /r/android: https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/5dzw2h/stockdroidscom_a_curated_list_of_nearstock/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/5dzw2h/stockdroids...
- Esau 10y agoHonestly, this is why I have always avoided Android devices: because there are too many variances. - some you can root, some you can't. - some have 3rd party junk, some don't. - some get updates, some don't. Being a fan of free/open source software, I want Android to succeed, but they have turned a good thing into a fucking quagmire.
- sjwright 10y agoWhether the modern Android experience has roots as a free/open source system is becoming a bit of an academic exercise. In a practical sense, useful distributions of Android and iOS are both combinations of open and closed source components.
- jhasse 10y agoAndroid is a lot more open though.
- sjwright 10y agoMy point is that, for some people, anything which is not fully open source might as well be closed source and arguing about percentages is academic.
- xyzzy_plugh 10y agoThe point is that it is a benefit to society as a whole. Android being open source as-is today is hugely beneficial. It has transformed the mobile and embedded/consumer device landscape. I have a hard time believing that the impact to everyone would be the same if it was closed source.
- sjwright 10y agoI agree that society benefits from freer software. But transformed the landscape? It's unquestionable that the iPhone truly transformed the mobile landscape. Closed-source Android has eaten up a huge amount of market share across the spectrum (particularly in low-cost high-volume sales). Open-source AOSP is a relative footnote. It has barely transformed anything.
- moreati 10y agoA slightly OT question: does any 2016 Android phone have MHL/HDMI alt mode? It seems to be a feature that became dropped by multiple manufacturers around 2015. I wasn't able to find one in this year's models.
- jaimex2 10y agoAwesome! I'll be sticking to OnePlus though, so far they have provided the best environment for their phones to flourish in the custom rom scene. I'm running latest Android without hassle! ( CM 14 )
- DriesS 10y agoYou will add tablets also in the future?
- oDot 10y agoYes, though other things are a priority (check out my other comment)
- dominotw 10y agoNice work!! Only comment I have about the website is to make the row highlight color a little softer and highlight row transition a little more gradual.
- nl 10y agoSurprised they don't list the Sony devices. They are "near-stock", unlockable and I'm pretty happy with my Z4C
- lsiebert 10y agoGreat site! I also want to know if a screen is OLED or not, given the battery savings.
- dylz 10y agoDon't you generally have to have some form of legal notice (at least in the states) that every single outgoing link is an affiliate link?
- veidr 10y agoNo.
- jameskegel 10y agoNo.
- ian0 10y agoIve transitioned over the years from iPhones to Samsung androids then the nexus range, ie gradually closer to stock. About 6 months ago my second nexus 5 crapped out and as I couldst find any nexus replacements (Im In SEA) I decided to try out the Xiaomi Mi4i. Im now fully converted. Its as big an improvement over the Nexus as the Nexus was over the Samsung. And its half the price of one. The biggest surprise was MIUI. It rocks and in my opinion a far superior UI than vanilla android. Its also updated really frequently, the last update they did (last week) rectified the only major issue I had with the UI (quick-links on the status menu). Seriously, I cannot praise this phone highly enough. My only qualm is the performance with while flicking between apps. But hell - its $170!
- Paul_S 10y agoThat's super useful, thank you. I got the Moto G (which is on the list) and will use this to get my next phone when this one dies (non replaceable battery so I imagine 2 more years tops). All the table is missing is how easy it is to root. There is nothing useful third-party "extra sauce" can add. In fact all the incentives for them are to make the OS worse.
- ajford 10y agoMeh, it's "non-replaceable" in the same manner as the Moto G 1st gen. I had that one from release (non-LTE version) until the day my Moto G4+ arrived from Amazon. About a year ago I replaced the battery for my Moto G1 for ~$20. A crap-load of screws (~15 Torx T4s) to get the back cover off, and one connector and I was done. Went from about 5 hours of useful time (1-2hrs SOT, had to charge at work just to make it home) with about 2hrs of listening to podcasts to making to dinner time (maybe 12hrs, 2-3hrs SOT). I figure by the time I need to replace the battery on my G4+, someone will be selling a replacement. Just cause it's not "User Replaceable" doesn't mean that someone with a screwdriver can't replace it. On a total side note, I'm kinda pissed that the new Moto M is coming out so soon. It's practically the same price as the Moto G4+ and seems to be better. I like the USB-C, rear fingerprint sensor, and metal body. Oh well.
- buckbova 10y agoI have the g4. Just wish it had a compass.
- tooFastFuckYou 10y agoOne thing to add (and it's pathetic that it's even needed): headphone jack (yes/no) and location (top/bottom). And power/USB jack location. Nobody should be voting with his money for a phone that insults consumers by omitting a headphone jack, but sadly some do. And the headphone jack and power port should be on the bottom, so you can plop the phone into a dock or cradle and charge it and get audio without wires messing up your car.
- siimplytech 10y agoThis is really cool. How do you get the data?
- andrepd 10y agoWhy does a filterable list need a loading splash and 10 seconds to load? D:
- qplex 10y agoThe site won't even load for me. JS and no fallback to plain HTML. Good example of why modern websites suck. A plain text file listing the models would be more useful.
- oDot 10y agoHi, quoting another comment of mine with an explanation: > It is planned but as sibling comment suggests, in the backlog for the moment. > If anyone is interested in the technical details -- I am using an angular-cli version that doesn't support AOT compilation so no tree shaking. Also no Angular Universal, therefore a loading screen. > I hate spinners. And hamburger menus.
- qplex 10y agoThanks; I did not mean to criticize too much. The idea of having a list of the devices is good.
- fermuch 10y agoSlightly off topic, but what I found terrible hard to look up on the specs lists for android phones is support for USB OTG. Some companies disable it, some enable it, and some switch between enabled and disabled between different sub models of the same phone. Sadly, I had to go to stores and ask to put an OTG to check for compatibility.
- Daniel_Marcos 10y agoJust out of curiosity, what do you use USB OTG and Android for? Nowadays I seldom hear about it. I can't think of the last time I saw someone use one!
- brokenmachine 10y agoI use OTG for a MicroSD card reader, and occasionally a mouse and usb keyboard. Also sometimes for a USB Serial UART connected to an Arduino. I'm using a Samsung Galaxy Note 3.
- relics443 10y agoGotta love Moto. The droid turbo was the best phone I ever had. If they could make that with an updated soc and RAM, I'd be all over that.
- dshuang 10y agoThanks for making this site. For your 404 page, something along the lines of "these are not the droids you're looking for" would be great, given the site url.
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- alimbada 10y agoI won't ever buy another Android phone, but I have been looking for a stock Android 7-8 inch tablet for a while. The search continues...
- dvh 10y agoI would like to have information if all apps can be uninstalled.
- snarfy 10y agoI still regret buying Samsung. So much customized, non-removable garbage.
- dbalan 10y agoAdding a row about the update situation of device would be nice. 1. Updates promised untill X year 2. Only security patches, etc.