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You're obviously trolling but here is something you could learn: H1-B = 62'000 Visa allocated per years Last Oct about 160'000 new jobs where created in the U

by allfou 10y ago

You're obviously trolling but here is something you could learn: H1-B = 62'000 Visa allocated per years Last Oct about 160'000 new jobs where created in the US (270'000 during the month of June for example). Under Obama (8 years) 9 million jobs were created total, which is above 1 million jobs per year. So, 8 x 62'000 = 496'000 H1-B under Obama. Versus 9 million new jobs in the US...

dugditches 10y ago
I'm fairly certain people qualifying for H1-B's that are 'requiring theoretical and practical application of a body of highly specialized knowledge in a field of human endeavor' are competing for the glut of those 9 million jobs. Come on. While OP's post isn't a very good one, you can't throw numbers like that at it. How many of those 9 million jobs are fulfilling, full time, well paying , etc. Isn't underemployment a big problem in the US?
- allfou 10y ago
  You don't like numbers and facts, then let's take it to the next level. Majority of the Dev community in the San Francisco Bay Area (for example) is of Asian/Indian descent. We're not even talking about foreigners here. Children of immigrants (immigrants who probably came through H1-B) - the second generation, American citizens. So, bringing people via H1-B actually helps fulfilling "high-level" jobs with American citizens. Does it make sense?
BeetleB 10y ago
>H1-B = 62'000 Visa allocated per years While your overall argument is sound, I must point out that it is actually 85000, which includes the special category of MS and above in a STEM field. This quota also does not include the academic H-1 - there is no quota for that (but numbers are probably low anyway). Your number also doesn't include the L-1 visa.
- spoonie 10y ago
  Not to mention TN status, nor EB-2.
  - BeetleB 10y ago
    EB-2 is not a visa status (most of the 20000 MS+ in STEM are EB-2, so they are included in my count). Not sure what TN is.
    - spoonie 10y ago
      TN is for NAFTA professionals, and has similar qualification requirements as an H1-B. The biggest difference is the employer doesn't have to sponsor, and it's a non-immigrant status. (I'm in the US on a TN status.)
candiodari 10y ago
That doesn't seem to match the numbers here: 1) http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/employed-persons http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/employed-perso... 2) http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/full-time-employment http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/full-time-empl... 3) http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/part-time-employment http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/part-time-empl... Obama did create jobs (given how many trillions of dollars he spent, one should hope so), but not nearly the amount you're reporting. The only way to get your numbers is to count every job anyone did for even a single day as a newly created job, and totally discount all layoffs.
- allfou 10y ago
  If I were you I'd look for the government data rather than the media: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0000000001?output_view=net_1mth http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0000000001?output_view=net...

by allfou 10y ago

dugditches 10y ago

I'm fairly certain people qualifying for H1-B's that are 'requiring theoretical and practical application of a body of highly specialized knowledge in a field of human endeavor' are competing for the glut of those 9 million jobs. Come on. While OP's post isn't a very good one, you can't throw numbers like that at it. How many of those 9 million jobs are fulfilling, full time, well paying , etc. Isn't underemployment a big problem in the US?

allfou 10y ago
You don't like numbers and facts, then let's take it to the next level. Majority of the Dev community in the San Francisco Bay Area (for example) is of Asian/Indian descent. We're not even talking about foreigners here. Children of immigrants (immigrants who probably came through H1-B) - the second generation, American citizens. So, bringing people via H1-B actually helps fulfilling "high-level" jobs with American citizens. Does it make sense?

BeetleB 10y ago

>H1-B = 62'000 Visa allocated per years While your overall argument is sound, I must point out that it is actually 85000, which includes the special category of MS and above in a STEM field. This quota also does not include the academic H-1 - there is no quota for that (but numbers are probably low anyway). Your number also doesn't include the L-1 visa.

spoonie 10y ago
Not to mention TN status, nor EB-2.
- BeetleB 10y ago
  EB-2 is not a visa status (most of the 20000 MS+ in STEM are EB-2, so they are included in my count). Not sure what TN is.
  - spoonie 10y ago
    TN is for NAFTA professionals, and has similar qualification requirements as an H1-B. The biggest difference is the employer doesn't have to sponsor, and it's a non-immigrant status. (I'm in the US on a TN status.)

candiodari 10y ago

That doesn't seem to match the numbers here: 1) http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/employed-persons http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/employed-perso... 2) http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/full-time-employment http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/full-time-empl... 3) http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/part-time-employment http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/part-time-empl... Obama did create jobs (given how many trillions of dollars he spent, one should hope so), but not nearly the amount you're reporting. The only way to get your numbers is to count every job anyone did for even a single day as a newly created job, and totally discount all layoffs.

allfou 10y ago
If I were you I'd look for the government data rather than the media: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0000000001?output_view=net_1mth http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0000000001?output_view=net...