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Spam is a problem everywhere except Gmail. People have an illusion that the battle against spam is won because Gmail did the job. All the other email providers
by fiatjaf 10y ago
Spam is a problem everywhere except Gmail. People have an illusion that the battle against spam is won because Gmail did the job. All the other email providers struggle everyday. SpamAssassin is worthless, it is a piece of shit that does nothing.
We desperately need a service that helps filtering email -- like, for example, something simple that just accepts reports about some email being spam or not, and creates a list of spam addresses.
- jimktrains2 10y agoI have to check my Spam folder for false positive constantly, so it's not as if GMail has solved the SPAM problem.
- pmlnr 10y ago> SpamAssassin is worthless, it is a piece of shit that does nothing. This is not entirely true. Spamassassin, dspam, and all the bayesian based ones need constrant training and feedback loop to work. The time trainings lasts for is getting shorter and shorter, but it's not entirely inefficient. ( I'm running dspam on my mail box. ) Combine this with weighted blacklists ( postscreen in my case ), add dkim and dmarc checks and it's fine for a small provider. Far from ideal, but working. I'd love to see an open source implementation of what google was referring to as domain based trust, but it's also a nasty thing. I've recently tried to change my mail address from a .eu domain to a .net, and most of my mail landed in the recipients' spam folder. It's a fresh domain, no one ever sent anything from it, so I'd assume fresh domains are untrusted by default, which is really bad and is generally wrong. If the trust is not OK by default, spam is users consider it spam, that's going to kill domain based mailing, which is horrible, and gmail will be the one to blaim when we have not alternatives to few providers.