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It is correct that unless I explicitly say otherwise, I do not officially speak for Pivotal. It'd basically be a terrible idea to give me an official mouthpiece

It is correct that unless I explicitly say otherwise, I do not officially speak for Pivotal. It'd basically be a terrible idea to give me an official mouthpiece, given how bombastic I am. And, of course, my opinion of GCP is just, like, my opinion, man. In my personal projects I have stuff on AWS. In fact I'll be adding more soon, since Pivotal Web Services is housed on AWS. And there's still a lot that AWS can do that GCP can't. It's just that, for the tiny slice of the world I've seen, I like GCP a lot more. No matter which platform you prefer, everyone will benefit from the fierce triangular tug-o-war between Amazon, Microsoft and Google. Especially if they're on a relocatable platform like Cloud Foundry (disclosure: Pivotal sells a version of this) or OpenShift.

ignoramous 10y ago
I like people who are critical and honest with their assessment. I value your opinion very highly, since you claim to have experience with the tools you are assessing. Thanks for clarifying statements and for the feedback. I would appreciate immensely if you can elaborate your frustrations with AWS apart from the ones you have mentioned already. You could either do it here or I could email you, or if you have a comment trail on this topic on reddit/hn/twitter, I'd appreciate the links. Thanks once again.
- jacques_chester 10y ago
  Remember, I am frequently wrong and fond of bombast. I feel that AWS has a strength and weakness in the fact that its longevity has led to a massive feature set. For those who've grown in expertise alongside it, AWS seems natural and obvious. I have instead come to this super-featuresome platform and found myself totally lost. If I was one of the people who'd consumed the new features piecemeal over the space of a decade, it wouldn't seem so daunting. I guess the same will happen to GCP. But even so, I find it much easier to get around in GCP. The console is obviously built as a unified experience. It still has a CRUDish flavour to it, insofar as it requires you to have some of the underlying model in your head to use efficiently. But it needs less and it tends to be less of a hunt for the foo that uses the bar that depends on the baz based on the quux which is ten bloody screens away under an ill-chosen name. Oh and AWS console seems to have a vendetta against allowing me to open up a bunch of tabs easily. I hate that. I usually want to look at two things side by side because weirdly, I find it hard to retain randomly-generated strings in my short term memory. As for performance, GCP brings up VMs extremely quickly, the networking is really fast and the prices are nicer. Truthfully, I've touched maybe 5% of what AWS or GCP offer. But the 5% I've seen is compelling. I think Google are going to finally break their total reliance on advertising revenue.
  - ignoramous 10y ago
    Makes sense. Thanks a lot. Rest assured AWS isn't turning a blind-eye to its shortcomings. Exciting times ahead for everyone involved.
vgt 10y ago
Appreciate your feedback very much, and apologize if my opinions were a little too bombastic themselves. I saw an AWS employee disparage a customer opinion, without disclosing their allegiances, and wanted to set things right :) For what it's worth, James Watters (Pivotal VP) agrees with the overall sentiments of the article[0]. To the folks on this thread, please don't hesitate to reach out with any feedback or suggestions directly. [0]https://twitter.com/wattersjames/status/800030791954677760 https://twitter.com/wattersjames/status/800030791954677760

ignoramous 10y ago

I like people who are critical and honest with their assessment. I value your opinion very highly, since you claim to have experience with the tools you are assessing. Thanks for clarifying statements and for the feedback. I would appreciate immensely if you can elaborate your frustrations with AWS apart from the ones you have mentioned already. You could either do it here or I could email you, or if you have a comment trail on this topic on reddit/hn/twitter, I'd appreciate the links. Thanks once again.

jacques_chester 10y ago
Remember, I am frequently wrong and fond of bombast. I feel that AWS has a strength and weakness in the fact that its longevity has led to a massive feature set. For those who've grown in expertise alongside it, AWS seems natural and obvious. I have instead come to this super-featuresome platform and found myself totally lost. If I was one of the people who'd consumed the new features piecemeal over the space of a decade, it wouldn't seem so daunting. I guess the same will happen to GCP. But even so, I find it much easier to get around in GCP. The console is obviously built as a unified experience. It still has a CRUDish flavour to it, insofar as it requires you to have some of the underlying model in your head to use efficiently. But it needs less and it tends to be less of a hunt for the foo that uses the bar that depends on the baz based on the quux which is ten bloody screens away under an ill-chosen name. Oh and AWS console seems to have a vendetta against allowing me to open up a bunch of tabs easily. I hate that. I usually want to look at two things side by side because weirdly, I find it hard to retain randomly-generated strings in my short term memory. As for performance, GCP brings up VMs extremely quickly, the networking is really fast and the prices are nicer. Truthfully, I've touched maybe 5% of what AWS or GCP offer. But the 5% I've seen is compelling. I think Google are going to finally break their total reliance on advertising revenue.
- ignoramous 10y ago
  Makes sense. Thanks a lot. Rest assured AWS isn't turning a blind-eye to its shortcomings. Exciting times ahead for everyone involved.

vgt 10y ago

Appreciate your feedback very much, and apologize if my opinions were a little too bombastic themselves. I saw an AWS employee disparage a customer opinion, without disclosing their allegiances, and wanted to set things right :) For what it's worth, James Watters (Pivotal VP) agrees with the overall sentiments of the article[0]. To the folks on this thread, please don't hesitate to reach out with any feedback or suggestions directly. [0]https://twitter.com/wattersjames/status/800030791954677760 https://twitter.com/wattersjames/status/800030791954677760