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>Google is much better at this stuff. Also worked at both companies. Google is not better. Google is a retirement home for engineers. Few creative things happe

by ranman 10y ago

>Google is much better at this stuff. Also worked at both companies. Google is not better. Google is a retirement home for engineers. Few creative things happen there (anymore--wasn't always true). If GCP is so star spangled awesome why is it still so far behind AWS? Why did AWS start literally 10 years before GCP? Google reacts to competition while Amazon proactively responds to customers -- this, as always, is the difference that allows amazon to succeed.

vgt 10y ago
You are currently employed by AWS, but I don't see a history of you working at Google. A "bias" disclosure would be helpful here. (work at Google Cloud and don't get paid to post on HN)
- ranman 10y ago
  Worked on google mars in mt view in 2011. Internship. Totally possible I didn't get to see the full benefit of the culture there. I have however seen friends disappear into google over the years and emerge with a distaste -- obviously the same can be said for amazon. A constant bias disclosure is cumbersome but you're right that it would have been helpful, you've forgotten it on some of your posts as well. My comments were off base sorry, obviously google does a ton of cool stuff. I let my emotions around this ridiculously biased post get in the way of my reason.
  - vgt 10y ago
    I work with lots of fairly senior ex-AWS folks who shudder at the memories. You also tend not to address the merits of the post, instead using ad-hominem and misdirection. I'm actually noticing a pattern here :)
    - ranman 10y ago
      >ad-hominem and misdirection And what are you doing?
      - vgt 10y ago
        I try to engage in dialogue, reach folks, provide factual information, and gather feedback on how we can do better. I offer folks to contact me directly. I also try to make it very clear who my employer is, through either direct note or clear context. I certainly am not in a habit of disparaging my employer's competitors' cultures and technologies through anecdotes (the last ex-AWS bit was the notable exception in the heat of the moment). I urge both you and "ignoramous" to get into this habit as well :) (work on Google Cloud)
manigandham 10y ago
> why is it still so far behind AWS? Why did AWS start literally 10 years before GCP That seems to answer the first question. AWS had a multi-year head start, but GCP is catching up and has the fundamentals covered, and the primitives they offer are very strong.

by ranman 10y ago

vgt 10y ago

You are currently employed by AWS, but I don't see a history of you working at Google. A "bias" disclosure would be helpful here. (work at Google Cloud and don't get paid to post on HN)

ranman 10y ago
Worked on google mars in mt view in 2011. Internship. Totally possible I didn't get to see the full benefit of the culture there. I have however seen friends disappear into google over the years and emerge with a distaste -- obviously the same can be said for amazon. A constant bias disclosure is cumbersome but you're right that it would have been helpful, you've forgotten it on some of your posts as well. My comments were off base sorry, obviously google does a ton of cool stuff. I let my emotions around this ridiculously biased post get in the way of my reason.
- vgt 10y ago
  I work with lots of fairly senior ex-AWS folks who shudder at the memories. You also tend not to address the merits of the post, instead using ad-hominem and misdirection. I'm actually noticing a pattern here :)
  - ranman 10y ago
    >ad-hominem and misdirection And what are you doing?
    - vgt 10y ago
      I try to engage in dialogue, reach folks, provide factual information, and gather feedback on how we can do better. I offer folks to contact me directly. I also try to make it very clear who my employer is, through either direct note or clear context. I certainly am not in a habit of disparaging my employer's competitors' cultures and technologies through anecdotes (the last ex-AWS bit was the notable exception in the heat of the moment). I urge both you and "ignoramous" to get into this habit as well :) (work on Google Cloud)

manigandham 10y ago

> why is it still so far behind AWS? Why did AWS start literally 10 years before GCP That seems to answer the first question. AWS had a multi-year head start, but GCP is catching up and has the fundamentals covered, and the primitives they offer are very strong.