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Without self-determination, you have no future. The historic record is full of examples of this. Even if you survive, it does not matter - because you become a

Without self-determination, you have no future. The historic record is full of examples of this. Even if you survive, it does not matter - because you become an invalid in your own home.

rhizome 10y ago
History tells us that many, many...probably most...people throughout history lived entire lives without what I assume you mean by "self-determination." This goes for the common defintion of "future" as it applies to people's lives. They had kids, wives, all that. Beyond that you're going to have to define your terms, because I don't speak whatever subculture you're representing. As I understand you, almost all of us are here today because of people with "no future."
- powertower 10y ago
  The only reason we are here [maybe not you specifically], is because some of our cultures were able to fend off the attacks of other cultures, and maintain our boarders, and our common bonds, and our self-determination. For example, a great number of European territories and countries experienced over a hundred major Islam/Muslim incursions (over the last 1500 years), where the people were killed, raped, and/or taken into slavery, and the territories were pillaged - but they managed to eventually push them out and keep them out. We would not exist if this did not happen. For another example, most groups that are coming into EU right now identify very strongly with one-another on racial and religious grounds, to an extent that is not productive. And if these people grow into the majority, they will change the country (economically, socially, etc) in ways that are opposite to the existing norms. And you will become a stranger in your own home.
  - tptacek 10y ago
    Until the European countries got over themselves and formed a union that could accommodate multiple cultures, the biggest threat any of them faced --- by far --- were each other. Also: the Muslims aren't coming to kill you. Far more the opposite: they're coming to vaccinate you and to write you prescriptions for azithromycin and to evaluate your MRI results.

Without self-determination, you have no future. The historic record is full of examples of this. Even if you survive, it does not matter - because you become an invalid in your own home.

rhizome 10y ago

History tells us that many, many...probably most...people throughout history lived entire lives without what I assume you mean by "self-determination." This goes for the common defintion of "future" as it applies to people's lives. They had kids, wives, all that. Beyond that you're going to have to define your terms, because I don't speak whatever subculture you're representing. As I understand you, almost all of us are here today because of people with "no future."

powertower 10y ago
The only reason we are here [maybe not you specifically], is because some of our cultures were able to fend off the attacks of other cultures, and maintain our boarders, and our common bonds, and our self-determination. For example, a great number of European territories and countries experienced over a hundred major Islam/Muslim incursions (over the last 1500 years), where the people were killed, raped, and/or taken into slavery, and the territories were pillaged - but they managed to eventually push them out and keep them out. We would not exist if this did not happen. For another example, most groups that are coming into EU right now identify very strongly with one-another on racial and religious grounds, to an extent that is not productive. And if these people grow into the majority, they will change the country (economically, socially, etc) in ways that are opposite to the existing norms. And you will become a stranger in your own home.
- tptacek 10y ago
  Until the European countries got over themselves and formed a union that could accommodate multiple cultures, the biggest threat any of them faced --- by far --- were each other. Also: the Muslims aren't coming to kill you. Far more the opposite: they're coming to vaccinate you and to write you prescriptions for azithromycin and to evaluate your MRI results.