> Left has lost everything because of bullshit of its progressive wing. I wouldn't call Hillary and her ideology "left". It is more neo-liberalism or corporat

> Left has lost everything because of bullshit of its progressive wing. I wouldn't call Hillary and her ideology "left". It is more neo-liberalism or corporatism perhaps. There not much "left" in there. If she was "leftist" she would have cared and talked more about people who have no jobs, or about basic income and so on. Anti-globalisation and anti-NAFTA is a also a leftist cause. It is funny that as soon as Trump picked it up, the neo-liberals distanced themselves from as quickly as possible. For example Chomsky has been harping on for decades about it. It is rather informative to read about it: https://chomsky.info/secrets03/ https://chomsky.info/secrets03/ (excerpt) --- The day after NAFTA passed, the New York Times had its first article on its expected impact in the New York region. (Its conclusions apply to GATT too.) It was a very upbeat article. They talked about how wonderful NAFTA was going to be [...] there’ll be some losers too: women, Hispanics, other minorities, and semi-skilled workers-in other words, about two-thirds of the work force. But everyone else will do fine. Just as anyone who was paying attention knew, the purpose of NAFTA was to create an even smaller sector of highly privileged people-investors, professionals, managerial classes. (Bear in mind that this is a rich country, so this privileged sector, although smaller, still isn’t tiny.) It will work fine for them, and the general population will suffer. The prediction for Mexico is exactly the same. The leading financial journal in Mexico, which is very pro-NAFTA, estimated that Mexico would lose about 25% of its manufacturing capacity in the first few years and about 15% of its manufacturing labor force. In addition, cheap US agricultural exports are expected to drive several million people off the land. That’s going to mean a substantial increase in the unemployed workforce in Mexico, which of course will drive down wages. --- Note Chomsky makes a connection there about a predicted flood of immigrants from the South (which happened, so what was a good analysis). I didn't listen much to Trump to know if he ever made that connection. Bernie is more of a leftist if you wish as well. He was very suspicious of immigration and was a anti-globalist in a way as well. Open borders policy for him was a "Koch brothers" right wing thing. He got quite upset about immigrants there flooding in and talks about "job creation" in US He says it clearly here: https://youtu.be/S5vOKKMipSA?t=342 https://youtu.be/S5vOKKMipSA?t=342 So as the saying from Twin Peaks goes, the owls are not what they seem