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> If pedestrians are getting hit by cars one of two things has happened: the pedestrian jaywalked or a driver didn't stop when required -- both cases which have

> If pedestrians are getting hit by cars one of two things has happened: the pedestrian jaywalked or a driver didn't stop when required -- both cases which have nothing to do with lane width. The driver will be able to stop when required when they're driving slower, which they certainly will do when the streets are designed to make them drive slower. >if the problem is excessive speed, then traffic enforcement is the problem. This is the solution that we've already tried for decades that doesn't work. When you make it more effective with solutions such as speed cameras, people decry it as a cash grab and they elect politicians that promise to remove them.

emp_zealoth 10y ago
Bullshit. If your cars are unable to stop from 50 or 60 mph with a red light then there are 3 possibilities: 1)People driving them should not be allowed to drive them because they are either fucking blind, unable to pay attention, drunk or too stupid 2)Those cars should not have passed the yearly technical evaluation and their registration is not valid 3)The lights themselves are not set up properly or are obscured by something If you fix all those 3 issues there is no reason not to have higher speed limits on main roads that have only intersections/crossings with lights on them
- Tiktaalik 10y ago
  Even at 40 mph if you hit a pedestrian there's over an 80% chance you'll kill them so we really shouldn't have people going 50-60 mph in areas where there are pedestrians at all.
  - emp_zealoth 10y ago
    Pro tip: stop cuddling everybody If you have poor infrastructure, no crosswalks with lights, no separated bike lanes, cars that run red lights then sure, go ahead, go fix that If some idiot jaywalks on a main road with proper safety infrastructure and gets himself killed, it's his problem
- vonmoltke 10y ago
  > 2)Those cars should not have passed the yearly technical evaluation and their registration is not valid There are places in the US, like the very state mentioned in this article, that do not have annual technical/safety inspections.

emp_zealoth 10y ago

Bullshit. If your cars are unable to stop from 50 or 60 mph with a red light then there are 3 possibilities: 1)People driving them should not be allowed to drive them because they are either fucking blind, unable to pay attention, drunk or too stupid 2)Those cars should not have passed the yearly technical evaluation and their registration is not valid 3)The lights themselves are not set up properly or are obscured by something If you fix all those 3 issues there is no reason not to have higher speed limits on main roads that have only intersections/crossings with lights on them

Tiktaalik 10y ago
Even at 40 mph if you hit a pedestrian there's over an 80% chance you'll kill them so we really shouldn't have people going 50-60 mph in areas where there are pedestrians at all.
- emp_zealoth 10y ago
  Pro tip: stop cuddling everybody If you have poor infrastructure, no crosswalks with lights, no separated bike lanes, cars that run red lights then sure, go ahead, go fix that If some idiot jaywalks on a main road with proper safety infrastructure and gets himself killed, it's his problem
vonmoltke 10y ago
> 2)Those cars should not have passed the yearly technical evaluation and their registration is not valid There are places in the US, like the very state mentioned in this article, that do not have annual technical/safety inspections.