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What do you think those institutions are? Do you really believe that gay kids can be converted into being straight? Here's some more reading about Mike Pence an

by legodt 10y ago

What do you think those institutions are? Do you really believe that gay kids can be converted into being straight? Here's some more reading about Mike Pence and human rights: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/10/mike-pence-isnt-boring-hes-one-americas-most-extreme-governors http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/10/mike-pence-isnt-... http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2016/07/mike-pences-top-seven-homophobic-moments-many/ http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2016/07/mike-pences-top-seven-hom... And here is a survivor recounting what it is like to be "provide[d] assistance to ... change their sexual behavior." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/realities-of-conversion-therapy_us_582b6cf2e4b01d8a014aea66 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/realities-of-conversion-...

marcoperaza 10y ago
>Do you really believe that gay kids can be converted into being straight? Woah there. All I did is point out that you're lying about Mr. Pence supporting "electrocution therapy" in particular. Now you're accusing me of supporting gay conversion therapy. Your tactic of falsely smearing and impugning the reputation of everyone that you disagree with is frankly disgusting.
- legodt 10y ago
  And your homophobia and defense of Mike Pence despite his public support of homophobia is abhorrent. It appears we are at an impasse.
  - marcoperaza 10y ago
    I don't believe in gay conversion therapy and actually support gay marriage, but I shouldn't even need to say that because it's not relevant to this discussion. The value that I'm advocating for here is honesty and good faith debate.
    - legodt 10y ago
      Well, since you keep defending racists and homophobes, it's hard to see you as otherwise. Here's some more reading material: https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2016/11/18/jeff-sessions-champion-anti-muslim-and-anti-immigrant-extremists https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2016/11/18/jeff-sessions...
    - kafkaesq 10y ago
      The topic of conversion therapy absolutely is relevant to the discussion, because Mike Pence is on recorded for not only supporting in the abstract -- but in having it mandated via federal legislation.

by legodt 10y ago

marcoperaza 10y ago

>Do you really believe that gay kids can be converted into being straight? Woah there. All I did is point out that you're lying about Mr. Pence supporting "electrocution therapy" in particular. Now you're accusing me of supporting gay conversion therapy. Your tactic of falsely smearing and impugning the reputation of everyone that you disagree with is frankly disgusting.

legodt 10y ago
And your homophobia and defense of Mike Pence despite his public support of homophobia is abhorrent. It appears we are at an impasse.
- marcoperaza 10y ago
  I don't believe in gay conversion therapy and actually support gay marriage, but I shouldn't even need to say that because it's not relevant to this discussion. The value that I'm advocating for here is honesty and good faith debate.
  - legodt 10y ago
    Well, since you keep defending racists and homophobes, it's hard to see you as otherwise. Here's some more reading material: https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2016/11/18/jeff-sessions-champion-anti-muslim-and-anti-immigrant-extremists https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2016/11/18/jeff-sessions...
  - kafkaesq 10y ago
    The topic of conversion therapy absolutely is relevant to the discussion, because Mike Pence is on recorded for not only supporting in the abstract -- but in having it mandated via federal legislation.