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What I am worried about is that in future AI swarm military robots will enable something that wasn't seen yet in history. Now to make dictatorship state you nee
by lossolo 10y ago
What I am worried about is that in future AI swarm military robots will enable something that wasn't seen yet in history. Now to make dictatorship state you need support of military/rebels/people behind it, you can't make it on your own. Without humans in equation who will stop some oligarch with enough money to take over some nation in for example Africa or Middle East? You wouldn't need hundreds of thousands/millions people supporting you anymore.
- elefanten 10y agoYes, this is why humans still need to work out some of the age old problems, like governance and ethics. Otherwise it's going to be kind of a dice roll--what are the values of the first team to achieve the governance-eclipsing technology.
- 77pt77 10y ago> Otherwise it's going to be kind of a dice roll--what are the values of the first team to achieve the governance-eclipsing technology. So like all history until now. The winners dictate morality. Nothing will change.
- elorant 10y agoAn oligarch with enough money could simply corrupt the government. They don't need a swarm of robots to take over.
- my_first_acct 10y agoThere is no need to create a new robot army if you can blackmail the people who control the existing army. For me, the most interesting revelation in the recent Wikileaks dumps is the surprising willingness of prominent individuals to share their most private thoughts via gmail. Larry Page (or his unscrupulous AI successor) may already have enough blackmail material on hand to seize the levers of power, if he so chooses. In that case, Google's new motto could be, "Absolute power corrupts absolutely".
- GunboatDiplomat 10y agoI've always thought it's more that absolute power attracts the corrupt disproportionately.
- my_first_acct 10y agoCoincidentally, I'm re-reading Lord of the Rings at the moment. Not sure if a work of fiction is the best source of moral lessons, but the whole point of the book is that the Ring of Power would corrupt even the most incorruptible. And somehow, this doesn't surprise me.
- GunboatDiplomat 10y agoWell, sure, but that is a work of fiction.
- knownothing 10y agoWhy is a moral lesson in a story any less of a moral lesson?
- GunboatDiplomat 10y agoWhy is a moral lesson in a story a moral lesson? I can invent any moral lesson and put it in a story. That a supposed moral lesson is featured in a work of fiction does not lend credence to it.
- RangerScience 10y agoCheckout a book called "Kill Decision". It's not as far ahead as "dictator with robot army", since it's attempting to be close to what's possible /today/.
- jwhitlark 10y agoI thought Daemon and Freedom were better, (but you have to read them both! It's more one book than two.) but Kill Decision does have some interesting points to it.
- RangerScience 10y agoThey were definitely better. I'm decently sure that Suarez had a few great ideas, and a wrote his first book using the best one, and was then on the hook for more books. Edit: Oh! If you liked Daemon, check out Nexus. Same "problem", different core tech solution.
- JabavuAdams 10y agoWould that necessarily be a bad thing? E.g. taking a very under-developed country and giving it the Singapore treatment?