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> If you push the alt-right to exclusively use their own walled gardens, to concentrate in their own unmoderated, subverted echo chambers, that's when you shoul

> If you push the alt-right to exclusively use their own walled gardens, to concentrate in their own unmoderated, subverted echo chambers, that's when you should be very terrified because that's when you birth actually scary groups. I feel like I'm justified in being much more terrified when the white nationalists are out in the open, empowered to inflict violence on people because they're confident country has their back. Like, you can be terrified on an abstract level because you think the anti-nazi politics aren't being performed optimally, we'll be over here fearing for our lives.

yomly 10y ago
This isn't about politics. This isn't abstract. This is about what we are seeing right now being a manifestation of trying silence a group and that it can get even worse. A politician was assassinated in the UK suspected (read: highly likely) over Brexit. Don't assume things can't get even worse is what I'm warning...
- ben0x539 10y ago
  Uh, yeah, right-wing extremists murdering people is pretty much what I posted about.
  - yomly 10y ago
    Put it this way. There's always one person who gets a bit too riled up in the mob. Maybe they'll say something like "yeah we should kill politician xyz!!!!!" If it's in public, chances are, more normal people (who happened to also be part of the discussion) will recoil and you can hope that person will realize that they overstepped something and dial back their thoughts/ideas. In a private space, where the discussion is framed by the founders and newcomers are joined (possibly only after being "vetted") it's probably more likely that after a suggestion like "let's kill xyz" will be escalated with something like "great idea - I know person A who sells guns on the side. And suddenly that person who possibly could have been talked out of doing something tragic has instead been empowered to act. I have faith that most of us are not malicious, but are still susceptible to the animal in us and all the instincts that come with that...
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yomly 10y ago

This isn't about politics. This isn't abstract. This is about what we are seeing right now being a manifestation of trying silence a group and that it can get even worse. A politician was assassinated in the UK suspected (read: highly likely) over Brexit. Don't assume things can't get even worse is what I'm warning...

ben0x539 10y ago
Uh, yeah, right-wing extremists murdering people is pretty much what I posted about.
- yomly 10y ago
  Put it this way. There's always one person who gets a bit too riled up in the mob. Maybe they'll say something like "yeah we should kill politician xyz!!!!!" If it's in public, chances are, more normal people (who happened to also be part of the discussion) will recoil and you can hope that person will realize that they overstepped something and dial back their thoughts/ideas. In a private space, where the discussion is framed by the founders and newcomers are joined (possibly only after being "vetted") it's probably more likely that after a suggestion like "let's kill xyz" will be escalated with something like "great idea - I know person A who sells guns on the side. And suddenly that person who possibly could have been talked out of doing something tragic has instead been empowered to act. I have faith that most of us are not malicious, but are still susceptible to the animal in us and all the instincts that come with that...

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