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There's so much wrong with this voxday manifest I don't know where to start. "The Alt Right believes Western civilization is the pinnacle of human achievement

There's so much wrong with this voxday manifest I don't know where to start. "The Alt Right believes Western civilization is the pinnacle of human achievement and supports its three foundational pillars: Christianity, the European nations, and the Graeco-Roman legacy." Smacks of racism... But we all need our selective foundation myths. "5. ...It supports all nationalisms and the right of all nations to exist, homogeneous and unadulterated by foreign invasion and immigration." So does the Alt-Right support the right of self-determination and national autonomy for the Palestinians in Israeli-Occupied Territories? Does the Alt-Right aspire to the German National-Socialists of the 20's-40's? "7. The Alt Right is anti-equalitarian. It rejects the idea of equality..." So not all people should be equal before the law? "scientodific" - is that even a word? "10. The Alt Right is opposed to the rule or domination of any native ethnic group by another, particularly in the sovereign homelands of the dominated peoples." I think Native Americans would agree with you here. "14. The Alt Right believes we must secure the existence of white people and a future for white children." And then the overt racism. "15. ...human sub-species..." I didn't realize there was such a thing. Last I checked DNA is DNA and sperm fertilizes egg. This whole things is racist. It is small-minded, backwards thinking, isolationist, static and reactionary. These ideas are further an affront to the Enlightenment ideals that are one of the true cornerstone of western civilization, whose roots go deeper than Greece and Rome, and the progress that we all benefit from - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Enlightenment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Enlightenment Get outta Dodge yo.

hga 10y ago
So does the Alt-Right support the right of self-determination and national autonomy for the Palestinians in Israeli-Occupied Territories? Yes, but there has to be physical separation. So one way or another, the "occupied" has to go. That's explicitly covered in #10, and #15 says at the end "Every race, nation, people, and human sub-species ... possesses the sovereign right to dwell unmolested in the native culture it prefers." Does the Alt-Right aspire to the German National-Socialists of the 20's-40's? No, if for no other reason than that they lost ^_^! The Alt Right is about winning, and the NASDP weren't winners, from the individual level (see how many biographies, granted, biased, say pretty early on "a failed X", starting with Hitler), all the way to the international level. So not all people should be equal before the law? That's pretty clear from many of the other points. E.g. a person from "race, nation, people, [or] human sub-species" who's not in one of their nations would not have the same rights as natives of the nation. "scientodific" - is that even a word? It's a supremely infelicitous neologism coined by Vox Day that I don't see anyone else picking up because it's so bad. But it's defined in the next sentence of the point, so, eh. I think Native Americans would agree with you here. Which just so happen to include Vox Day ^_^ (long suspected by he and his siblings, then recently confirmed by genetic testing; he's also of Mexican descent. No doubt part of why he's part of the Alt West, not the Alt White, although there's also mere details like Christianity differentiating the two subsets of the Alt Right as he's defined their taxonomy, as noted by many including Hitler, Jesus was a Jew after all). I think the "human sub-species" being referred to in #15 pertains to the recent discoveries WRT to Neanderthal intermixing and the like, but this is not an topic I follow. Ah, per Wikipedia, and this is following earlier research first published in 2010 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neanderthal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neanderthal): "In 2016, research indicated that modern humans had three distinct interbreeding events with Neanderthals: the first encounter involved the ancestors of all non-African modern humans, probably soon after leaving Africa; the second, after the ancestral Melanesian group had branched off (and subsequently had a unique breeding event with Denisovans); and the third, involving the ancestors of East Asians only. In short, only members of the Negroid race are pure homo sapiens ^_^. Last I checked DNA is DNA and sperm fertilizes egg. When it comes to defining species and sub-species, not exactly; per Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Species https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Species and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subspecies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subspecies): A species is often defined as the largest group of organisms in which two individuals are capable of reproducing fertile offspring, typically using sexual reproduction. A common way to decide is that organisms belonging to different subspecies of the same species are capable of interbreeding and producing fertile offspring, but they do not usually interbreed in nature due to geographic isolation, sexual selection, or other factors.
- jessedhillon 10y ago
  This is like someone claiming why a literal pile of steaming bullshit cannot be the truth, by pointing out that it is bullshit. Then, another person attempts to rebut it by pointing out that the particular species which shat this out is actually some kind of buffalo, of the female gender in fact.

hga 10y ago

So does the Alt-Right support the right of self-determination and national autonomy for the Palestinians in Israeli-Occupied Territories? Yes, but there has to be physical separation. So one way or another, the "occupied" has to go. That's explicitly covered in #10, and #15 says at the end "Every race, nation, people, and human sub-species ... possesses the sovereign right to dwell unmolested in the native culture it prefers." Does the Alt-Right aspire to the German National-Socialists of the 20's-40's? No, if for no other reason than that they lost ^_^! The Alt Right is about winning, and the NASDP weren't winners, from the individual level (see how many biographies, granted, biased, say pretty early on "a failed X", starting with Hitler), all the way to the international level. So not all people should be equal before the law? That's pretty clear from many of the other points. E.g. a person from "race, nation, people, [or] human sub-species" who's not in one of their nations would not have the same rights as natives of the nation. "scientodific" - is that even a word? It's a supremely infelicitous neologism coined by Vox Day that I don't see anyone else picking up because it's so bad. But it's defined in the next sentence of the point, so, eh. I think Native Americans would agree with you here. Which just so happen to include Vox Day ^_^ (long suspected by he and his siblings, then recently confirmed by genetic testing; he's also of Mexican descent. No doubt part of why he's part of the Alt West, not the Alt White, although there's also mere details like Christianity differentiating the two subsets of the Alt Right as he's defined their taxonomy, as noted by many including Hitler, Jesus was a Jew after all). I think the "human sub-species" being referred to in #15 pertains to the recent discoveries WRT to Neanderthal intermixing and the like, but this is not an topic I follow. Ah, per Wikipedia, and this is following earlier research first published in 2010 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neanderthal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neanderthal): "In 2016, research indicated that modern humans had three distinct interbreeding events with Neanderthals: the first encounter involved the ancestors of all non-African modern humans, probably soon after leaving Africa; the second, after the ancestral Melanesian group had branched off (and subsequently had a unique breeding event with Denisovans); and the third, involving the ancestors of East Asians only. In short, only members of the Negroid race are pure homo sapiens ^_^. Last I checked DNA is DNA and sperm fertilizes egg. When it comes to defining species and sub-species, not exactly; per Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Species https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Species and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subspecies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subspecies): A species is often defined as the largest group of organisms in which two individuals are capable of reproducing fertile offspring, typically using sexual reproduction. A common way to decide is that organisms belonging to different subspecies of the same species are capable of interbreeding and producing fertile offspring, but they do not usually interbreed in nature due to geographic isolation, sexual selection, or other factors.

jessedhillon 10y ago
This is like someone claiming why a literal pile of steaming bullshit cannot be the truth, by pointing out that it is bullshit. Then, another person attempts to rebut it by pointing out that the particular species which shat this out is actually some kind of buffalo, of the female gender in fact.