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On GCP, you create a separate Project entity that can have any number of Google Accounts linked to it. In that way, the actions of your personal account don't a
by timdorr 10y ago
On GCP, you create a separate Project entity that can have any number of Google Accounts linked to it. In that way, the actions of your personal account don't affect the GCP project (and vice versa).
If you're worried about access, you can establish a service account with Owner level access. Or you can add other Google Accounts to the project. (Here are the docs on that: https://cloud.google.com/iam/docs/overview https://cloud.google.com/iam/docs/overview)
I personally have all my Google stuff separated into 3 accounts (work, personal email, and personal Google-y things). My work account has access to the projects on GCP, along with some coworkers. That puts up enough of a firewall between various services so that if Google throws down the banhammer, it's not totally game over for me.
- nkw 10y ago> On GCP, you create a separate Project entity that can have any number of Google Accounts linked to it. In that way, the actions of your personal account don't affect the GCP project (and vice versa). My understanding from the recent Pixel-orders-account-banning incidents that Google had nuked even marginally related accounts, including gmail accounts whose only relation was being the recovery e-mail for one of the offending accounts. I just read this in one of the articles, so I don't know if it is true, but if so that seems to devalue the possible solution of just linking a number of different Google accounts to your Google Cloud account with owner access to the project. In fact that might be a larger concern if any one of those accounts raises the ire of whatever Google department does the nuking, they might extend the action to all accounts associated through the Google Cloud project. Hopefully not likely, but this stuff worries me.
- philiphodgen 10y agoLogical self-preservation in action. And it is a telling indictment of the corporate character displayed by Google: - Exploitable for minor personal convenience ("Use Gmail! Use Gcal! Simple and free!") - Not to be trusted under any circumstances with important matters ("We can evaporate your existence from the internet for all practical purposes and there's not a damn thing you can do about it.") Some day, it will become important for us to own our own lives again. And I say this as someone who runs his business on GApps. I'm as guilty as everyone else.
- btian 10y agoCurious what you mean by "own our own lives again". Are you planning to run your own email servers (or any other service that Google provides)? Or just switch to another vendor?
- philiphodgen 10y agoI don't know what to do. But it irks me that I follow the easier, softer way -- knowing that I am causing trouble to myself by doing so.
- kinkdr 10y agoMy answer to this problem is less dramatic; I am just hedging my bets. For search and maps, I use Google, for personal hardware, Apple, for cloud servers, AWS, for email, Fastmail on my own domain, and so on. It is slightly more inconvenient than having one Google account to rule everything, but it helps me at leas feel a bit saner..
- dkarapetyan 10y agoFastmail with a personal domain is very easy to set up.
- mark_l_watson 10y agoThat is great advice. I have the same setup, except I use OVH instead of AWS because the cost is much lower, but still meets my needs (AWS, GCP, and Azure are all great services that I have used, no criticism intended).
- naasking 10y agoSomething like sandstorm would give you more power over your own data without the burden of running your own services.
- rincebrain 10y agoe: Ignore this, I was mistaken, see downthread. Eventually, this may be true. In practice, I believe Sandstorm still requires nontrivial amounts of handholding when updates occur.
- sirn 10y ago> you can establish a service account with Owner level access Never realized I could do this. Is my understanding correct that Google Cloud won't suspend a project as long as there's a service account associated with it?