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> I would like to hear what platform bits of AWS that you find lacking in Google Cloud. RDS instances with Postgresql.

by Fiahil 10y ago

vgt 10y ago
This is the one that comes up. Hit me up offline. Also, you can always use any number of partners that provide this functionality. Let me know if there are any others.
- chronic6l 10y ago
  > Also, you can always use any number of partners that provide this functionality. Like AWS?
  - vgt 10y ago
    Yup, both leverage partners where their offerings are not present.
    - hitekker 10y ago
      > Google's ecosystem of fully managed services is very rich broad and compelling, and in many ways far ahead of competition. I see.
      - vgt 10y ago
        I'm not sure where I'm being inconsistent. Both AWS and Google have broad spectrum of fully managed services. There are places where Google lacks and AWS doesn't, and there are places where Google is superior, or where AWS lacks. In both cases, there are partners that enrich these ecosystems.
        hueving 10y ago
        You asked for a gap and when one was clearly identified, you went into a weird defensive sales mode. "partner" solutions are often garbage compared to a real native solution, so AWS is much better in this regard.
        vgt 10y ago
        Sorry if I came off defense. I said that it's a valid concern in this thread, should have been more clear I suppose.
- rch 10y ago
  Python support needs improvement. The standard environment is limited, and the flexible environment is still in beta.
  - xapata 10y ago
    Py3k would be nice.
    - rch 10y ago
      The 'flexible environment' supports 2.7 and 3.4, and any Python package that works on Debian Linux. https://cloud.google.com/python/quickstarts https://cloud.google.com/python/quickstarts
    - rcpt 10y ago
      Yea. Even on gsutil 4.22 you gotta switch off your virtualenv before you can list your files. https://pypi.python.org/pypi/gsutil https://pypi.python.org/pypi/gsutil
- Fiahil 10y ago
  From the top of my head, a managed Elasticsearch a-la-elastic-cloud would be very interesting. Their offering is expensive and very frustrating if you don't have a paid support contract. AWS has something similar, but lacking features (kopf, kibana, marvel, etc)
  - vgt 10y ago
    Thanks!
  - notyourwork 10y ago
    AWS Elasticsearch has kibana built in when you spin up your ES instances.
alexnewman 10y ago
THis is in alpha on google
- timdorr 10y ago
  Where? They list all of their alphas here: https://cloud.google.com/sdk/gcloud/reference/alpha/ https://cloud.google.com/sdk/gcloud/reference/alpha/
  - skj 10y ago
    That's the list of alpha CLI commands, and is only related to an alpha service in that it won't outpace it. Most alpha services do not yet have gcloud support.
mbrukman 10y ago
Thanks for the feedback! I'm PM for another Google Cloud database (not Cloud SQL), but will share this with the team.
tonglil 10y ago
Elasticache (redis/memcache) Postgres Integrated domains (a la R53) S-N/E/Q-S

> I would like to hear what platform bits of AWS that you find lacking in Google Cloud. RDS instances with Postgresql.

by Fiahil 10y ago

> I would like to hear what platform bits of AWS that you find lacking in Google Cloud. RDS instances with Postgresql.

vgt 10y ago

This is the one that comes up. Hit me up offline. Also, you can always use any number of partners that provide this functionality. Let me know if there are any others.

chronic6l 10y ago
> Also, you can always use any number of partners that provide this functionality. Like AWS?
- vgt 10y ago
  Yup, both leverage partners where their offerings are not present.
  - hitekker 10y ago
    > Google's ecosystem of fully managed services is very rich broad and compelling, and in many ways far ahead of competition. I see.
    - vgt 10y ago
      I'm not sure where I'm being inconsistent. Both AWS and Google have broad spectrum of fully managed services. There are places where Google lacks and AWS doesn't, and there are places where Google is superior, or where AWS lacks. In both cases, there are partners that enrich these ecosystems.
      - hueving 10y ago
        You asked for a gap and when one was clearly identified, you went into a weird defensive sales mode. "partner" solutions are often garbage compared to a real native solution, so AWS is much better in this regard.
        vgt 10y ago
        Sorry if I came off defense. I said that it's a valid concern in this thread, should have been more clear I suppose.
rch 10y ago
Python support needs improvement. The standard environment is limited, and the flexible environment is still in beta.
- xapata 10y ago
  Py3k would be nice.
  - rch 10y ago
    The 'flexible environment' supports 2.7 and 3.4, and any Python package that works on Debian Linux. https://cloud.google.com/python/quickstarts https://cloud.google.com/python/quickstarts
  - rcpt 10y ago
    Yea. Even on gsutil 4.22 you gotta switch off your virtualenv before you can list your files. https://pypi.python.org/pypi/gsutil https://pypi.python.org/pypi/gsutil
Fiahil 10y ago
From the top of my head, a managed Elasticsearch a-la-elastic-cloud would be very interesting. Their offering is expensive and very frustrating if you don't have a paid support contract. AWS has something similar, but lacking features (kopf, kibana, marvel, etc)
- vgt 10y ago
  Thanks!
- notyourwork 10y ago
  AWS Elasticsearch has kibana built in when you spin up your ES instances.

alexnewman 10y ago

THis is in alpha on google

timdorr 10y ago
Where? They list all of their alphas here: https://cloud.google.com/sdk/gcloud/reference/alpha/ https://cloud.google.com/sdk/gcloud/reference/alpha/
- skj 10y ago
  That's the list of alpha CLI commands, and is only related to an alpha service in that it won't outpace it. Most alpha services do not yet have gcloud support.

mbrukman 10y ago

Thanks for the feedback! I'm PM for another Google Cloud database (not Cloud SQL), but will share this with the team.

tonglil 10y ago

Elasticache (redis/memcache) Postgres Integrated domains (a la R53) S-N/E/Q-S