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Side note: What do people think of the 'subscribe to our mailing list' popup on this site? On desktop, it first appears as you are about half way down the page

Side note: What do people think of the 'subscribe to our mailing list' popup on this site? On desktop, it first appears as you are about half way down the page as a small banner at the bottom of the screen, as you scroll more then takes up half the page, and finally covers the whole page (with a close button to dismiss - which sets a cookie and stops it appearing again). It's not in your face when you load the page which is nice, but it's still a popup - these things must work though, so I can't see them going away anytime soon.

joelhooks 10y ago
They convert like crazy. People will always say they hate them, but they exist because they are super effective.
jfoutz 10y ago
disliked it. The first part of the article was kind of ok, i guess. It's got to be a whole lot more engaging for me to sick around through that kind of manipulation. i don't run adblock, because i think people should be paid for their work. They made their choice, an chose to punish an honest user. so, bozo bit flipped. firstround talks about being forthright, being aware of subordinate's needs while actually being fairly conniving. The article may have some value, but the source is pretty vile. At this point, i think anything with a popup is at best a secondary source, they don't really understand what they're saying and are simply parroting someone who really understands the issue. their words can be helpful, but it's pretty clear anyone that manipulative would simply steal the words from someone smart. I'm sure there exist people that are supremely manipulative, and also very insightful. In my limited experience, the manipulative people are pretty boring, once i catch on to their game. This specific tactic, you've enjoyed the time we've spent together so far, so you should give me something, is more or less the standard line for popups and street performers. I sort of respect street performers for making the move, they're clearly desperate, and need all the help they can get. A website, on the other hand, if they are desperate, their advice is likely very bad. If they are not desperate, they're simply interested in sucking up any attention you might be willing to give them. in person, i would consider that pretty fucking toxic. I can't see this website being in any way helpful. Any truth they spread can't be anything more than a hook for later manipulation. So, yeah, i think it's pretty disgusting. edit clarification - i wouldn't be nearly as critical of a purely technical article. you can be a not very nice person and know how to deploy microservices. This case, telling me how to treat people while treating me poorly has the problem of words not aligning with actions.
jSully24 10y ago
Dislike. Especially the "No thanks, I don’t want to learn more." button to dismiss it. Pretty condescending in my opinion. On mobile that popped up immediately. I did click on through and read the article despite that, but my interest in coming back to that site is diminished by the sense of arrogance displayed in that pop up.

joelhooks 10y ago

They convert like crazy. People will always say they hate them, but they exist because they are super effective.

jfoutz 10y ago

disliked it. The first part of the article was kind of ok, i guess. It's got to be a whole lot more engaging for me to sick around through that kind of manipulation. i don't run adblock, because i think people should be paid for their work. They made their choice, an chose to punish an honest user. so, bozo bit flipped. firstround talks about being forthright, being aware of subordinate's needs while actually being fairly conniving. The article may have some value, but the source is pretty vile. At this point, i think anything with a popup is at best a secondary source, they don't really understand what they're saying and are simply parroting someone who really understands the issue. their words can be helpful, but it's pretty clear anyone that manipulative would simply steal the words from someone smart. I'm sure there exist people that are supremely manipulative, and also very insightful. In my limited experience, the manipulative people are pretty boring, once i catch on to their game. This specific tactic, you've enjoyed the time we've spent together so far, so you should give me something, is more or less the standard line for popups and street performers. I sort of respect street performers for making the move, they're clearly desperate, and need all the help they can get. A website, on the other hand, if they are desperate, their advice is likely very bad. If they are not desperate, they're simply interested in sucking up any attention you might be willing to give them. in person, i would consider that pretty fucking toxic. I can't see this website being in any way helpful. Any truth they spread can't be anything more than a hook for later manipulation. So, yeah, i think it's pretty disgusting. edit clarification - i wouldn't be nearly as critical of a purely technical article. you can be a not very nice person and know how to deploy microservices. This case, telling me how to treat people while treating me poorly has the problem of words not aligning with actions.

jSully24 10y ago

Dislike. Especially the "No thanks, I don’t want to learn more." button to dismiss it. Pretty condescending in my opinion. On mobile that popped up immediately. I did click on through and read the article despite that, but my interest in coming back to that site is diminished by the sense of arrogance displayed in that pop up.