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100 million users downloading 15Gigs of email each is not "trivial", even if its $0.00000001 per MB And gmail has 1 Billion monthly active users, so that is qu

by mSparks 10y ago

100 million users downloading 15Gigs of email each is not "trivial", even if its $0.00000001 per MB And gmail has 1 Billion monthly active users, so that is quite likely a conservative guestimate. I don't think its implausible that shutting down these guys accounts will cost google a 7 or 8 figure sum in (non budgeted) backbone bandwidth charges alone.

throwaway2048 10y ago
This isn't going to make anywhere near 100million people "quit google" nor do many people have 15GB of mail, or anywhere close. And you don't pay per megabyte at the peered networks scale, or even 95% percentile.
- mSparks 10y ago
  I didn't say anything about "quitting". Just a significant number deciding it is time to back up their content. And at the backbone level it is all charged by the Mbps for example http://www.level3.com/en/legal/ip-traffic-exchange-policy/ http://www.level3.com/en/legal/ip-traffic-exchange-policy/ http://blog.streamingmedia.com/2014/02/transit-works-costs-important.html http://blog.streamingmedia.com/2014/02/transit-works-costs-i... So a jump in a significant portion of the user base from a few MB per user per day to several GB will be several thousand times more expensive for that day.
  - jsjohnst 10y ago
    That information, while factually correct, isn't applicable to Google in the same way it is to say [insert most other websites].
    - mSparks 10y ago
      Google is not a tier 1 provider, there are only 6 of them. Putting traffic into a tier 1 network costs, taking it pays. A massive surge from Googles hardware onto the tier 1 networks will be very, very expensive. Last time it came up was as the BitTorrent protocol started blowing up ISPs that couldn't pay the bills.
      - jsjohnst 10y ago
        Google peers with many national and regional ISPs at exchange points. I don't know the exact numbers, but I'm guessing a fairly significant portion of their traffic does not go over traditional "tier 1" networks and rather is handed off directly to ISPs.

by mSparks 10y ago

throwaway2048 10y ago

This isn't going to make anywhere near 100million people "quit google" nor do many people have 15GB of mail, or anywhere close. And you don't pay per megabyte at the peered networks scale, or even 95% percentile.

mSparks 10y ago
I didn't say anything about "quitting". Just a significant number deciding it is time to back up their content. And at the backbone level it is all charged by the Mbps for example http://www.level3.com/en/legal/ip-traffic-exchange-policy/ http://www.level3.com/en/legal/ip-traffic-exchange-policy/ http://blog.streamingmedia.com/2014/02/transit-works-costs-important.html http://blog.streamingmedia.com/2014/02/transit-works-costs-i... So a jump in a significant portion of the user base from a few MB per user per day to several GB will be several thousand times more expensive for that day.
- jsjohnst 10y ago
  That information, while factually correct, isn't applicable to Google in the same way it is to say [insert most other websites].
  - mSparks 10y ago
    Google is not a tier 1 provider, there are only 6 of them. Putting traffic into a tier 1 network costs, taking it pays. A massive surge from Googles hardware onto the tier 1 networks will be very, very expensive. Last time it came up was as the BitTorrent protocol started blowing up ISPs that couldn't pay the bills.
    - jsjohnst 10y ago
      Google peers with many national and regional ISPs at exchange points. I don't know the exact numbers, but I'm guessing a fairly significant portion of their traffic does not go over traditional "tier 1" networks and rather is handed off directly to ISPs.