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Given that there's hard evidence that they are just corporate/government shills, I think it's pretty easy for the average person to see what's going on. It was

Given that there's hard evidence that they are just corporate/government shills, I think it's pretty easy for the average person to see what's going on. It wasn't that long ago that all those aforementioned outlets were telling us that we'd get mushroom clouds in our cities if we didn't invade Iraq. Out of one side of their mouth, the NYT is saying "sorry folks, we'll get back to pursuing honest coverage now", yet out of the other side they're saying "it has nothing to do with our coverage, it's all due to fake news!". The fact that they are doubling down on this bankrupt strategy in such a blatant and contradictory way is ironic, because it will only accelerate their demise.

bigyaz 10y ago
Cite this "hard evidence", please. And quoting Trump does not qualify. The fact you bought Trump's blatant lie that the NYT apologized for its coverage tells me all I need to know about where you get your news and how discerning you are.
- ConfuciusSay02 10y ago
  Of course, here you go my friend. Remember, all these media companies are owned by a handful of companies. Why would they report on their own corruption? Of course they wouldn't. That's why you don't hear about it from them. A few examples of many: Campaign staff discussing how to blunt the successful Bernie Sanders attack that cast Clinton as the "establishment" candidate. Their strategy involved getting bloggers and columnists to "write about this from a racial justice and reproductive rights perspective, including a few people who joined us on a call to talk about the "Bernie Backlash" that was unfolding even before his remarks last night—current list is Elianne Ramos [HuffPo], Jessica Valenti [Guardian] (who is writing a column on this as we speak), Jamil Smith [MTV/Viacom], Sady Doyle [Guardian, The Atlantic], Aminatou Sow, Gabe Ortiz [WaPo, Univision], and others". /podesta-emails/emailid/56243 Lisa Lerer (AP) writing an article about Clinton's "Wall Street problem" is asking campaign staff how she should characterize her article: "she is asking if we wish to characterize her remarks in any way." /podesta-emails/emailid/36373 Campaign staff for one candidate are being given the opportunity (CNN) to provide with questions to ask another candidate in an upcoming interview. /dnc-emails/emailid/27526 Mark Leibovich (NYT) allowing campaign staff to edit his article - literally picking what to include and what not to include in the article. /podesta-emails/emailid/4213 Party staff saying Kenneth Vogel (Politico) gave her his story in advance, and that if there's anything the campaign doesn't like, she can "push back". /dnc-emails/emailid/10808 And of course the infamous Donna Brazile (DNC/CNN) getting caught red handed giving debate questions in advance multiple times, and was subsequently fired from CNN. Also worth mentioning remembering they were pulling the same tricks and more on Bernie. The head of DNC was fired because of emails that showed the supposed neutral DNC was in fact fully against Bernie.

bigyaz 10y ago

Cite this "hard evidence", please. And quoting Trump does not qualify. The fact you bought Trump's blatant lie that the NYT apologized for its coverage tells me all I need to know about where you get your news and how discerning you are.

ConfuciusSay02 10y ago
Of course, here you go my friend. Remember, all these media companies are owned by a handful of companies. Why would they report on their own corruption? Of course they wouldn't. That's why you don't hear about it from them. A few examples of many: Campaign staff discussing how to blunt the successful Bernie Sanders attack that cast Clinton as the "establishment" candidate. Their strategy involved getting bloggers and columnists to "write about this from a racial justice and reproductive rights perspective, including a few people who joined us on a call to talk about the "Bernie Backlash" that was unfolding even before his remarks last night—current list is Elianne Ramos [HuffPo], Jessica Valenti [Guardian] (who is writing a column on this as we speak), Jamil Smith [MTV/Viacom], Sady Doyle [Guardian, The Atlantic], Aminatou Sow, Gabe Ortiz [WaPo, Univision], and others". /podesta-emails/emailid/56243 Lisa Lerer (AP) writing an article about Clinton's "Wall Street problem" is asking campaign staff how she should characterize her article: "she is asking if we wish to characterize her remarks in any way." /podesta-emails/emailid/36373 Campaign staff for one candidate are being given the opportunity (CNN) to provide with questions to ask another candidate in an upcoming interview. /dnc-emails/emailid/27526 Mark Leibovich (NYT) allowing campaign staff to edit his article - literally picking what to include and what not to include in the article. /podesta-emails/emailid/4213 Party staff saying Kenneth Vogel (Politico) gave her his story in advance, and that if there's anything the campaign doesn't like, she can "push back". /dnc-emails/emailid/10808 And of course the infamous Donna Brazile (DNC/CNN) getting caught red handed giving debate questions in advance multiple times, and was subsequently fired from CNN. Also worth mentioning remembering they were pulling the same tricks and more on Bernie. The head of DNC was fired because of emails that showed the supposed neutral DNC was in fact fully against Bernie.