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The thing that burns me out about freelance is the client just views you as a cost center. Always want more work in less time. I start to fantasize about the "c

The thing that burns me out about freelance is the client just views you as a cost center. Always want more work in less time. I start to fantasize about the "camaraderie" of being on a team. Maybe there needs to be a Freelancer's Local Union.

jdswain 10y ago
Try joining a meetup or two, they are really good for meeting people in similar situations to yourself and having conversations about work.
samsonradu 10y ago
I second this. Every time I drive by a big corporate building and I see groups of employees joking while having a smoke or coffee, it makes me envious. I joke about it saying that I m something like Batman who always works alone. Lately I ve been doing short trips to the client's offices, about 2000km away (on my expense) just to get the teamwork feeling.
- manmal 10y ago
  Loneliness is the killer. I recently found out that I had this belief that the others don't need me around, and so they don't ask me for my company. That was actually self-victimization, because I should be the one to reach out when I want company. Doing much better now with that out of the way. This goes for every aspect of life, for me.
manmal 10y ago
Try to find a partner and do your freelancer thing as a team. I incorporated with a fellow student of my university, and as a result we became fast friends. We are basically two freelancers under one brand, and share everything. This really helps!
garrickvanburen 10y ago
I found reframing myself as a vendor (and small business owner) rather than a freelancer changed everything.
- reflexive 10y ago
  This is especially valuable if you can develop a specialized skill to sell as a "product" over and over... I suppose I've found that a "can/will do anything" attitude is much better suited to employment/cofounding than consulting.
icc97 10y ago
It's gone quiet of late but The Remote Together Slack group [1] is a great place to chat if you're working on your own. [1]: https://remotetogether.slack.com
- freelancezombie 10y ago
  Thanks, will check it out!
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rb808 10y ago
You need to learn to say no more often & get also get some new clients.
- wodencafe 10y ago
  This is very true, not sure why you were voted down. Don't be afraid to say "no" to the client, especially if you have given them an honest estimate and they are pushing you to revise the estimate downward.
csallen 10y ago
I had the exact opposite experience freelancing. I was lucky enough to land some really smart and well-funded clients, while also filling a crucial position that made my value obvious and impossible not to appreciate. How do you land those roles reliably? I have no idea. Some combination of luck and networking, I'd say, as my best positions were always inbound requests. (Generally: Hey Courtland, we saw that you built cool thing X. Could you build the same for us?) It really helps to be in the financial position to say no to anything that doesn't meet your standards.

jdswain 10y ago

Try joining a meetup or two, they are really good for meeting people in similar situations to yourself and having conversations about work.

samsonradu 10y ago

I second this. Every time I drive by a big corporate building and I see groups of employees joking while having a smoke or coffee, it makes me envious. I joke about it saying that I m something like Batman who always works alone. Lately I ve been doing short trips to the client's offices, about 2000km away (on my expense) just to get the teamwork feeling.

manmal 10y ago
Loneliness is the killer. I recently found out that I had this belief that the others don't need me around, and so they don't ask me for my company. That was actually self-victimization, because I should be the one to reach out when I want company. Doing much better now with that out of the way. This goes for every aspect of life, for me.

manmal 10y ago

Try to find a partner and do your freelancer thing as a team. I incorporated with a fellow student of my university, and as a result we became fast friends. We are basically two freelancers under one brand, and share everything. This really helps!

garrickvanburen 10y ago

I found reframing myself as a vendor (and small business owner) rather than a freelancer changed everything.

reflexive 10y ago
This is especially valuable if you can develop a specialized skill to sell as a "product" over and over... I suppose I've found that a "can/will do anything" attitude is much better suited to employment/cofounding than consulting.

icc97 10y ago

It's gone quiet of late but The Remote Together Slack group [1] is a great place to chat if you're working on your own. [1]: https://remotetogether.slack.com

freelancezombie 10y ago
Thanks, will check it out!
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rb808 10y ago

You need to learn to say no more often & get also get some new clients.

wodencafe 10y ago
This is very true, not sure why you were voted down. Don't be afraid to say "no" to the client, especially if you have given them an honest estimate and they are pushing you to revise the estimate downward.

csallen 10y ago

I had the exact opposite experience freelancing. I was lucky enough to land some really smart and well-funded clients, while also filling a crucial position that made my value obvious and impossible not to appreciate. How do you land those roles reliably? I have no idea. Some combination of luck and networking, I'd say, as my best positions were always inbound requests. (Generally: Hey Courtland, we saw that you built cool thing X. Could you build the same for us?) It really helps to be in the financial position to say no to anything that doesn't meet your standards.