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1) $1 million doesn't go far to be honest. 2) People on Reddit and elsewhere noted pro-Trump videos with thousands of shares and a couple hundred views repeate

1) $1 million doesn't go far to be honest. 2) People on Reddit and elsewhere noted pro-Trump videos with thousands of shares and a couple hundred views repeatedly. The only way that would happen is with bots since to trigger the share link on YouTube would be by viewing the video.

aaron-lebo 10y ago
1) They've spent almost $10 million as of today. That was 6 million in late October and 1 million in March. It's just ramping up. 2) Yeah. Trump and Russia are doing it, too. It's just as nefarious there. Why is the standard defense of Clinton whataboutism?
- grzm 10y ago
  Frankly, I see whataboutism being used regardless of political persuasion. (Is this a whataboutist response to whataboutism?) I think the only way to combat accusations of whataboutism is to rigorously apply the same standards whenever these things are brought up and do one's best to remove even the appearance of partisanship when making them. That can be tough to do. You know, stuff like this is actually where people can cross party lines and work together. Find an issue that should be non-partisan, set aside the other issues they may disagree on, and get something positive done. Edit to add: I didn't think this was controversial. If you down vote, I'd appreciate it if you would take the time to comment in the interest of communication.
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- fweespeech 10y ago
  >2) Yeah. Trump and Russia are doing it, too. It's just as nefarious there. Why is the standard defense of Clinton whataboutism? If I stab you and you try to defend yourself, it is whataboutism now? Politics is about offense and defense. You can't fight a guy with bot networks pushing a false narrative without one of your own. You honestly think unilateral disarmament is the way to go?
Brakenshire 10y ago
The YouTube thing isn't accurate because views tend to take a while to update. Having said, I think the above poster is correct that the idea of CTR taking over reddit as some settled reality is a sort of mass hysteria. It is something that is simply repeated over and over again until people accept it.

aaron-lebo 10y ago

1) They've spent almost $10 million as of today. That was 6 million in late October and 1 million in March. It's just ramping up. 2) Yeah. Trump and Russia are doing it, too. It's just as nefarious there. Why is the standard defense of Clinton whataboutism?

grzm 10y ago
Frankly, I see whataboutism being used regardless of political persuasion. (Is this a whataboutist response to whataboutism?) I think the only way to combat accusations of whataboutism is to rigorously apply the same standards whenever these things are brought up and do one's best to remove even the appearance of partisanship when making them. That can be tough to do. You know, stuff like this is actually where people can cross party lines and work together. Find an issue that should be non-partisan, set aside the other issues they may disagree on, and get something positive done. Edit to add: I didn't think this was controversial. If you down vote, I'd appreciate it if you would take the time to comment in the interest of communication.
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fweespeech 10y ago
>2) Yeah. Trump and Russia are doing it, too. It's just as nefarious there. Why is the standard defense of Clinton whataboutism? If I stab you and you try to defend yourself, it is whataboutism now? Politics is about offense and defense. You can't fight a guy with bot networks pushing a false narrative without one of your own. You honestly think unilateral disarmament is the way to go?

Brakenshire 10y ago

The YouTube thing isn't accurate because views tend to take a while to update. Having said, I think the above poster is correct that the idea of CTR taking over reddit as some settled reality is a sort of mass hysteria. It is something that is simply repeated over and over again until people accept it.