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Only use it if you want to send all of your information to FSB (modern KGB). Evgeniy Kasperskiy has friends in government, police and FSB. He also is apologet o
by EugeneOZ 10y ago
Only use it if you want to send all of your information to FSB (modern KGB). Evgeniy Kasperskiy has friends in government, police and FSB. He also is apologet of state surveillance.
- narrator 10y agoIran and other SCO countries will be customers since they are friendly with Russia. I wonder if they are running it on Elbrus chips. That would make it extra super secure and Russian.
- dfox 10y agoGiven that the photos show obviously bodged-on VGA connector and AHCI-related messages with Intel's vendor ID on screen I would assume that it is just a normal PC (ie. white-box switch).
- PerfectDlite 10y ago> That would make it extra super secure and Russian. And extra slow, considering Elbrus performance.
- a1a 10y agoAny reliable source? This is quite the accusation
- nols 10y agoHere's a Wikipedia summary https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_Kaspersky#Alleged_affiliations_with_Russia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_Kaspersky#Alleged_affil...
- at-fates-hands 10y agoThe Company Securing Your Internet Has Close Ties to Russian Spies: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-03-19/cybersecurity-kaspersky-has-close-ties-to-russian-spies http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-03-19/cybersecur... Kaspersky Lab: Based In Russia, Doing Cybersecurity In The West: http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2015/08/10/431247980/kaspersky-lab-a-cybersecurity-leader-with-ties-to-russian-govt http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2015/08/10/431... Russia’s Top Cyber Sleuth Foils US Spies, Helps Kremlin Pals: https://www.wired.com/2012/07/ff_kaspersky/ https://www.wired.com/2012/07/ff_kaspersky/ Global Cyber Security Firm Kaspersky Denies KGB Ties and Helping Russian Intelligence: https://themoscowtimes.com/articles/global-cyber-security-firm-kaspersky-denies-kgb-ties-and-helping-russian-intelligence-44980 https://themoscowtimes.com/articles/global-cyber-security-fi...
- Dolores12 10y agoIt's another FUD. Keep in mind that Kaspersky lab have found EQUATION Group, no one else could.
- at-fates-hands 10y agoHow many Russian state sponsored hacking teams have they uncovered?
- Demiurge 10y agoHow many Russian state sponsored hacking teams have Symantec uncovered? They didn't even assign any specific state to the hacking teams, it can only be assumed from the targets. The fact that anyone spends time and publishes such findings is commendable, and is more than I have seen from other companies. PS. Perhaps I just missed some publications, so I would welcome any links.
- Dolores12 10y agoI see 2 options: 1) there is none 2) they are too good at hiding
- nickpsecurity 10y agoOr option 3 they covered it up for their Russian buddies like the U.S. firms probably covered up Equation Group. This should be the default assumptions in what are essentially police states with surveillance and hacking prone intelligence services + ability to gag, bribe, or destroy commercial vendors. Best not to trust any of them in general and especially not trust them to turn on their domestic, intelligence services.
- Dolores12 10y agoWhats the problem for Norton, Symantec, Mcafee to find them and do nice research paper for everyone to read?
- tomp 10y agoWhat choice do we have? All other operating systems send your information either to NSA or China. State surveillance reigns supreme.
- valarauca1 10y agoFreeBSD, OpenBSD, and Linux don't.
- zanny 10y agoThe Intel ME and and AMD PSP are still executing proprietary code on an independent processor in your CPU package all the time, with full system access. Linux cannot do anything about it.
- valarauca1 10y agoYeah you only FTrace your entire networking stack at watch if it ever sends/receives packets without your knowledge. Or use libpcap and accomplish the same task. Or use a user space packet stack stack and disable your default network interface. I get not everything on the system is pure FOSS. But every binary ball isn't NSA spyware. If you assume that is true, you literally cannot use ANY computer. FOSS OS's make it nothing but a question of work-hours to do the full trust but verify paradigm.
- adrianN 10y agoIf you can't trust your processor you can't trust any of your verification chain that runs on said processor.
- this-dang-guy 10y agoAhem http://rationalviews.com/t/presentation-on-fully-open-source-computing/89 http://rationalviews.com/t/presentation-on-fully-open-source... You could go into that rabbit hole. I'd recommend against it... I lost days reading all the docs and playing with this
- kleigenfreude 10y agoAlthough I thought the same when I saw it, I think that's unfair. You could just as easily say Symantec/Norton/Microsoft Defender/Windows/Google is CIA/NSA. Since everything's being watched, Kaspersky might be just as much FSB as it is NSA, or any other country that could get its mitts on it. Cisco was definitely completely NSA there for a while, because of the backdoor. China's got Lenovo and every smart appliance, phone, and TV made in China, CIA/NSA have Dell, Korea and Japan have all of their smart TVs, phones, appliances, etc. I'm being a little sarcastic, as obviously, they aren't watching everyone all of the time, really, and most devices' backdoors, for those that have them, are unused. I'm fine with all of it, for the most part. Yeah, I'm not perfect, and I don't want all my info made public or sold, but we give up much, much more just by everything being online. Our banks, investments, to some extent our medical history, geneology, likes/dislikes, actions, schedule... it's all there. Each of us could be simulated with all of the info they have at this point, but they can't fully- yet. Now they just have to keep and mine all the data- which they do, but it's selective; it'll be a lot less selective about what is analyzed as time goes on. Then one or more AI's will decide what will happen to all that information, and us, if we don't all kill our planet or each other before then. Best thing to do? Use the hell out of Kaspersky OS. Use Red Flag Linux. Just take all of your banking info and give it to the Nigerian whose been asking for it. If we all just gave up on security, what would humanity do with all of that trust? Ok, maybe not such a good idea... maybe paranoia can help you be a little more secure, for now. However, if it's open source and you build it yourself- then at least you could look at it, if you wanted, and had time.
- e40 10y agoYou could just as easily say Symantec/Norton/Microsoft Defender/Windows/Google is CIA/NSA. Isn't it, though? Apple seems to be the only company that has stood up to the three letter agencies. (I'm a US citizen.)
- leeter 10y agoActually MS was the one to first challenge National Security Letters. Moreover if it was found out that they had left a back door in it would result in the loss of billions of dollars in business, from Europe alone. Whereas Kaspersky very clearly will always have a Russian government/corporate client.
- illumin8 10y agoWe should look at this as it really is: Russia is super paranoid, and increasingly isolationist. Putin is also realizing that all of his technology comes from western companies, and they are trying to build their own, so that they aren't so reliant on Cisco routers, Intel CPUs, and Apple smartphones. This will be a russian OS, designed to allow russian companies to buy routers, switches, and firewalls that are not made by western companies. It has to scare the shit out of russia to think that if they did have a war with the west, they would lose their access to the technology needed to run their businesses. This is a first step towards trying to build some type of technological independence from the west.
- throwaway5752 10y agoThere is no reason why both cannot be true. You should expect that there are FSB accessible backdoors/0-days.
- illumin8 10y agoAbsolutely, but it's also helpful to understand why an FSB/KGB aligned company would be building their own OS from scratch anyway, when they could just adopt any BSD or Linux-based OS with a permissive license.
- CaptSpify 10y ago> Russia is super paranoid, and increasingly isolationist And they have good reason to be. The US has really shot itself in the foot by intentionally compromising the systems we create. Hopefully we can use this (and similar actions by other countries) to turn that around.
- nine_k 10y agoLet's cautiously assume that China also does this. Open-source hardware would be great at counteracting this (and for other reasons), but it's harder than open-source software.
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- at-fates-hands 10y agoThis is the first thing I thought of tbh. I've been slightly paranoid after it was revealed that Kryptowire discovered backdoors in some Chinese made smartphones: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/16/us/politics/china-phones-software-security.html http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/16/us/politics/china-phones-s... It was not a bug. Rather, Adups intentionally designed the software to help a Chinese phone manufacturer monitor user behavior, according to a document that Adups provided to explain the problem to BLU executives
- Dolores12 10y agoI prefer the FSB to have access to my files than NSA. What FSB can do to me? Send to Guantanamo?
- skywhopper 10y agoThey can all of your files over to Wikileaks.
- SEJeff 10y agoMay I present you with exhibit a) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_of_Alexander_Litvinenko https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_of_Alexander_Litvine...
- Dolores12 10y agoHow does it relate to my porn collection?
- roywiggins 10y agoBlackmail?
- nickpsecurity 10y agoThis is a valid point. I told people elsewhere best way to deal with subversion [aside from avoiding computers] is to assess one's threat model against various countries, identify which secrets need to be protected from which if at all, and then protect them using stuff from most opposing country. The one you trust might compromise you but the one that's truly a threat won't. Outside of national politics, Russia is most likely to steal the I.P. of say an American user outside of it. Whereas American intelligence and police organizations might lock up that same user for some bullshit. Situation is reversed for a Russian considering U.S. solutions. Some countries or organizations are unlikely to steal your I.P. or attack you. They become better choice than the aggressive ones. Then there's multinational, FOSS projects with strong security focus at the high-end. Gotta build them from carefully-acquired source, though. ;)
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- finid 10y agoYou could say the same for Cisco, Juniper, and Microsoft. Even your anti-virus companies has worked with the govt to allow some govt sponsored malware through. Would be great if Kaspersky OS will be free and open source.
- strictnein 10y agoCome on... it's not like Oracle started as a project Larry Ellison worked on for the CIA...
- this-dang-guy 10y agoYes, but the quality of oracle means that a backdoor is your least concern ;)
- Demiurge 10y agoSo should we also only use McAfee products if we want to send all the our information to CIA?