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Right on! This is one of the best responses I've read. As you point out, there is no such thing as "the Islam" on matters such as these, there are various tradi

by Jun8 17y ago

Right on! This is one of the best responses I've read. As you point out, there is no such thing as "the Islam" on matters such as these, there are various traditions. A similar debate is raging in Europe over the wearing of head scarves, again a traditional approach from a small sect in Islam. One quick clarification though: AFAIK, Mohammed is always depicted with a veil in Islamic iconography.

patio11 17y ago
AFAIK, Mohammed is always depicted with a veil in Islamic iconography. That is factually inaccurate -- that is certainly one historically mainstream option, but it is not true in all times and all places. See generally the Wiki article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depictions_of_Muhammad http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depictions_of_Muhammad
kloncks 17y ago
I'll accept that there is no such thing as "the Islam" and that in practice it's a very diverse religion. But some traditions aren't simply "a traditional approach from a small sect in Islam" The Hijab (head scarves) is an Islamic requirement. The different sects will disagree on its implementation, style, enforcement, and other details...but the vast majority of Muslims will agree that it's not simply "again a traditional approach from a small sect in Islam" Depictions of holy figures is another example. Yes, there is Persian, Turkish, Indian, and other art depicting the prophet, the angels, god, etc. Yes, some Shia Muslims will have no problem depicting the prophet respectfully. Yes, some Sunni Muslims are more liberal than others. But in reality, when you look at the whole Islamic population, those groups are the ones that historically have represented a small sect in Islam. The vast majority of Muslims stand against such depictions; it's important to note that the vast majority of them will also simply boycott or ignore said depictions, rather than go through more violent channels. Just my two cents.
- RK 17y ago
  Hijab may be be a requirement, but hijab doesn't necessarily = head scarves. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijab http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijab
  - kloncks 17y ago
    Like I said: The different sects will disagree on its implementation, style, enforcement, and other details...but the vast majority of Muslims will agree that it's not simply "again a traditional approach from a small sect in Islam"

by Jun8 17y ago

patio11 17y ago

AFAIK, Mohammed is always depicted with a veil in Islamic iconography. That is factually inaccurate -- that is certainly one historically mainstream option, but it is not true in all times and all places. See generally the Wiki article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depictions_of_Muhammad http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depictions_of_Muhammad

kloncks 17y ago

I'll accept that there is no such thing as "the Islam" and that in practice it's a very diverse religion. But some traditions aren't simply "a traditional approach from a small sect in Islam" The Hijab (head scarves) is an Islamic requirement. The different sects will disagree on its implementation, style, enforcement, and other details...but the vast majority of Muslims will agree that it's not simply "again a traditional approach from a small sect in Islam" Depictions of holy figures is another example. Yes, there is Persian, Turkish, Indian, and other art depicting the prophet, the angels, god, etc. Yes, some Shia Muslims will have no problem depicting the prophet respectfully. Yes, some Sunni Muslims are more liberal than others. But in reality, when you look at the whole Islamic population, those groups are the ones that historically have represented a small sect in Islam. The vast majority of Muslims stand against such depictions; it's important to note that the vast majority of them will also simply boycott or ignore said depictions, rather than go through more violent channels. Just my two cents.

RK 17y ago
Hijab may be be a requirement, but hijab doesn't necessarily = head scarves. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijab http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijab
- kloncks 17y ago
  Like I said: The different sects will disagree on its implementation, style, enforcement, and other details...but the vast majority of Muslims will agree that it's not simply "again a traditional approach from a small sect in Islam"