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Just who do you suppose was held back by "excessive rationality"? I'd suggest that many many more people in the world are held back by "not enough rationality".
by infinity0 10y ago
Just who do you suppose was held back by "excessive rationality"? I'd suggest that many many more people in the world are held back by "not enough rationality".
There is no stereotypical "scientists' disdain" for those topics. It is vital to understand history, social sciences, economics, politics, and the arts. What is disdained is the way these topics are, in the present world, not pursued along more rigorous lines.
Too many people like to look good by producing grand-sounding theories about these topics, without putting their ideas through a more rigorous process to check whether they are actually true or not. Then we get a cohort of followers who believe these theories as if they were "as true" as mathematical theorems, but they are not. This wastes everyone's time, and worse.
One can certainly picture an overly-specialised scientist who doesn't know anything other than the specific field they chose - I guess this is what you mean by "excessive rationality" - but I don't see many cases of this actually existing. What I see in far greater numbers is the problem I mentioned in the previous few paragraphs, as well as people using the "excessively rational" image as a straw-man argument to attack scientists, to distract the world from their own flaws, of "not enough rationality".
- hammock 10y agoI agree with everything except your last paragraph. You're mostly on track with what I'm talking about. There are plenty of people who throw a bunch of bullshit into a "grand-sounding theory." And on the other hand, just because something isn't backed by a mathematical theorem, doesn't mean it isn't true, or useful!
- infinity0 10y agoAgreed that unproven does not imply false, and there is a tendency for people purporting to be "skeptics" to make this fallacy. There's even a name for it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy_fallacy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy_fallacy However, it's too easy for bullshit-artists to hide behind this, as a way to deflect criticism of the theories that they're proposing, or the general area of work that they've chosen to pursue. We're all human so it's perfectly reasonable to believe in something that's unproven - but then be honest about it, and explore the topic from a critical viewpoint without getting personally defensive. Unfortunately I see many more cases of this, than instances of the fallacy-fallacy.