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I mapped out the influencer networks for Docker and Kubernetes using the tool Little Bird - you can see here[1] that the Kubernetes network is not dominated by

by jtroyer 10y ago

I mapped out the influencer networks for Docker and Kubernetes using the tool Little Bird - you can see here[1] that the Kubernetes network is not dominated by any one subgroup: it's not an ecosystem dominated by anybody (except Google, and not in the same way as most OSS which come out of companies). So don't worry about Heptio in that way -- if anything worry that too many companies are all trying to fix the same problems, and they'll be duplicative and not economically viable. 1: https://twitter.com/jtroyer/status/799451113606893568 https://twitter.com/jtroyer/status/799451113606893568

codemac 10y ago
Those graphs are very hard to read, and don't show things like stdev. It just looks like to me that docker is a much more popular project (200+ people in single groups)
- jtroyer 10y ago
  They are groupings off of a network clustering based on Twitter following relationships -- scale questions aside, I think they indicate that Docker has a few tightly-connected clusters (the three big ones are roughly DevOps influencers, Docker employees, and Kubernetes folks) vs Kubernetes, which is more fragmented (if you squint the clusters are Docker, CoreOS, Red Hat, a few Google ones, etc.) I'll try to publish a more detailed analysis soon. My hypothesis is that the K8s influencer ecosystem is not dominated by any one group or any one company, which is not surprising at this stage.
caniszczyk 10y ago
You're also welcome to look at the kubernetes stats here: https://cncf.biterg.io https://cncf.biterg.io You can clearly see the diverse number of contributors/companies
- gtaylor 10y ago
  I wish I had known about this link a few months ago! I did a bunch of evil things with hastily written scripts to get some of those numbers.
- edraferi 10y ago
  Cauldron[1] looks awesome! Are you on the team / can you get me an invite code? [1]https://cauldron.io/ https://cauldron.io/
  - jgbarah 10y ago
    Thanks for the interest.. You can check OWL2016. Please, have in mind it is (for now) just a proof of concept.

by jtroyer 10y ago

codemac 10y ago

Those graphs are very hard to read, and don't show things like stdev. It just looks like to me that docker is a much more popular project (200+ people in single groups)

jtroyer 10y ago
They are groupings off of a network clustering based on Twitter following relationships -- scale questions aside, I think they indicate that Docker has a few tightly-connected clusters (the three big ones are roughly DevOps influencers, Docker employees, and Kubernetes folks) vs Kubernetes, which is more fragmented (if you squint the clusters are Docker, CoreOS, Red Hat, a few Google ones, etc.) I'll try to publish a more detailed analysis soon. My hypothesis is that the K8s influencer ecosystem is not dominated by any one group or any one company, which is not surprising at this stage.

caniszczyk 10y ago

You're also welcome to look at the kubernetes stats here: https://cncf.biterg.io https://cncf.biterg.io You can clearly see the diverse number of contributors/companies

gtaylor 10y ago
I wish I had known about this link a few months ago! I did a bunch of evil things with hastily written scripts to get some of those numbers.
edraferi 10y ago
Cauldron[1] looks awesome! Are you on the team / can you get me an invite code? [1]https://cauldron.io/ https://cauldron.io/
- jgbarah 10y ago
  Thanks for the interest.. You can check OWL2016. Please, have in mind it is (for now) just a proof of concept.