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Just like systemd, Wayland and the kernel right ? Are you aware that Redhat actually employs most of the kernel devs ? Ubuntu does not have the "people's stac

Just like systemd, Wayland and the kernel right ? Are you aware that Redhat actually employs most of the kernel devs ? Ubuntu does not have the "people's stack" ... It's just another company building a stack that is not as good.

willtim 10y ago
I was specifically talking about the UI. Which is more of a priority for Ubuntu as they are trying to build a desktop OS.
slgeorge 10y ago
Are you aware that the whole of the development resource (people) across the entire free software desktop would fit into a reasonable size conference room? Versus, say the size of the development teams on proprietary systems such as Windows? So, what is the point of trying to divide the community of people all trying to work towards similar(ish) goals - the improvement of the alternative desktops - rather than focusing on how they are part of the same thing? It doesn't improve the likelihood of achieving the goal of a "better" desktop. You are literally stood in a room with 10 people trying to demonstrate how 2 of them are better than the other 8. It's an exercise in pointlessness, makes the free software community unfriendly and sets up fake academic wars [0]. Note: I previously worked for Canonical so have bias, I know people at RedHat and other open source companies. I have had the opinion that this sort of stupid divisionism stuff is bad for FOSS for at least 10 years. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayre's_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayre's_law
- sandGorgon 10y ago
  I apologize if I came off as an ass. I was ticked off by Redhat being painted as the BigBadCo and Canonical being painted as the little-guy-who-could. I have the greatest of respect for anyone who has ever contributed a single line to Linux - more than anywhere else, your works really impacts countries like India. I am not sure why there is this impression. I would be lying if I didn't think so myself.
  - slgeorge 10y ago
    @sandGorgon thanks for apologising, I really appreciate anyone taking a moment to reconsider their underlying assumptions and thinking.

willtim 10y ago

I was specifically talking about the UI. Which is more of a priority for Ubuntu as they are trying to build a desktop OS.

slgeorge 10y ago

Are you aware that the whole of the development resource (people) across the entire free software desktop would fit into a reasonable size conference room? Versus, say the size of the development teams on proprietary systems such as Windows? So, what is the point of trying to divide the community of people all trying to work towards similar(ish) goals - the improvement of the alternative desktops - rather than focusing on how they are part of the same thing? It doesn't improve the likelihood of achieving the goal of a "better" desktop. You are literally stood in a room with 10 people trying to demonstrate how 2 of them are better than the other 8. It's an exercise in pointlessness, makes the free software community unfriendly and sets up fake academic wars [0]. Note: I previously worked for Canonical so have bias, I know people at RedHat and other open source companies. I have had the opinion that this sort of stupid divisionism stuff is bad for FOSS for at least 10 years. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayre's_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayre's_law

sandGorgon 10y ago
I apologize if I came off as an ass. I was ticked off by Redhat being painted as the BigBadCo and Canonical being painted as the little-guy-who-could. I have the greatest of respect for anyone who has ever contributed a single line to Linux - more than anywhere else, your works really impacts countries like India. I am not sure why there is this impression. I would be lying if I didn't think so myself.
- slgeorge 10y ago
  @sandGorgon thanks for apologising, I really appreciate anyone taking a moment to reconsider their underlying assumptions and thinking.