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You might try thinking about this from the other direction. I can tell you from first-hand experience that once-shocking levels of South Korean nationalism, and

You might try thinking about this from the other direction. I can tell you from first-hand experience that once-shocking levels of South Korean nationalism, and really, ethnic nationalism, have been calmed down to something far far friendlier and more cosmopolitan, and it very much seems that travel and exposure to other cultures (especially the West, but not only) are what has done the trick. Now as for being a North Korean, well, you are kind of proving the point because North Koreans' number one problem is isolation from the world. Back in the USA, what percentage of Trump voters do you imagine hold passports? Sure, correlation is different from causation, but still... So I can respect your call to realism, but at the same time it reminds me of some old aphorism about babies and bathwater or something. Incidentally, another baby that people seem to want to throw out when the bathwater gets dirty is international trade.

hueving 10y ago
>Back in the USA, what percentage of Trump voters do you imagine hold passports? Sure, correlation is different from causation, but still... About the same percentage as Hillary supporters? In my experience holding a passport is more correlated with income than any particular political leaning. What they do is likely a lot different (e.g. religious mission vs French wine binge), but there is nothing particularly Democrat/Republican about a passport.
- malloryerik 10y ago
  I'm not quite sure that the numbers are as equal as you might think. http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/03/americas-great-passport-divide/72399/ http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/03/americas... Also we should note that being Republican and bring a Trump supporter aren't necessarily the same thing.
  - malloryerik 10y ago
    Btw most of the Trump supporters I've met overseas have had tied to the military.
  - hueving 10y ago
    Thus article seems to support my conjecture that it's correlated to income.

hueving 10y ago

>Back in the USA, what percentage of Trump voters do you imagine hold passports? Sure, correlation is different from causation, but still... About the same percentage as Hillary supporters? In my experience holding a passport is more correlated with income than any particular political leaning. What they do is likely a lot different (e.g. religious mission vs French wine binge), but there is nothing particularly Democrat/Republican about a passport.

malloryerik 10y ago
I'm not quite sure that the numbers are as equal as you might think. http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/03/americas-great-passport-divide/72399/ http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/03/americas... Also we should note that being Republican and bring a Trump supporter aren't necessarily the same thing.
- malloryerik 10y ago
  Btw most of the Trump supporters I've met overseas have had tied to the military.
- hueving 10y ago
  Thus article seems to support my conjecture that it's correlated to income.