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The ones "rambling on" are the conservatives. They invented this issue, and immediately started to legislate it. At which point people started objecting. Stop m

• jimmywanger 10y ago
  > The ones "rambling on" are the conservatives. They invented this issue, and immediately started to legislate it. That is ridiculous. We've had gender separated restrooms for the longest time. It's only until now that social mores weren't enough to enforce the fact that you're just not supposed to use a restroom not of your gender, except for children with their parent under a certain age. A law is a heavy handed way to solve the discomfort of most people, but it was passed in a state by its elected legislature. Since the Constitution doesn't say anything about sexual relations or orientation at all, it devolves to state rights. > But if that is a problem, again, your team created it. You are the party of legislating bathrooms and bedrooms. Own it. We are owning it. We're owning it because people aren't respecting long held social norms because of certain ideas of justice they have. Get over yourself. When a majority of people in a political jurisdiction believe a certain thing, either learn to live with it or move. > This "out of touch" rhetoric is being heavily pushed by the right-wing apparatchik, and I am sure that you would rather be able to have your own opinions rather than the ones that the Party thinks you should have. Ad hominem much? I have not attacked you personally at all, and you're insulting my ability to have my own opinions on thin evidence. I repeat points in the media because they make sense. Heck, I repeat facts every day. The mere fact that I repeat them so often doesn't make them less true. Also, the left has been the political leaning that has clamped down heavily on thought crime and dissent. Note that Milo Yiannopoulos is far right, as he found the left far too stifling intellectually.
  • sethrin 10y ago
    > That is ridiculous. We've had gender separated restrooms for the longest time. Actually that's pretty modern, historically. And thanks for telling me what my gender is, I really needed the guidance. > Since the Constitution doesn't say anything about sexual relations or orientation at all, it devolves to state rights. State rights and the People. I don't feel the need to make a moral argument about human rights on this issue, but I am sure one could be made. > Get over yourself. When a majority of people in a political jurisdiction believe a certain thing, either learn to live with it or move. The majority is not always right, and democracy does not mean "majority rules". Also appeal to tradition is a fallacy, not a valid argument. > I repeat points in the media because they make sense. The triumph of rationalization over empiricism is nearly complete. > Ad hominem much? I have not attacked you personally at all Right, that thing where you said all trans people are insane or faking it was not in any sense a personal reflection. You do seem to be persisting in that belief though, which again does not reflect empirical reality. You are insisting that laws be made on the basis of your feelings -- and then blaming your opponents for it.