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Having trouble relating to "The Other" is pretty universal this election cycle. Like the multitudes who believe that everyone who supports Trump is a Racist.

Having trouble relating to "The Other" is pretty universal this election cycle. Like the multitudes who believe that everyone who supports Trump is a Racist. The standard, and in my opinion most useful, definition of a racist is "a person who believes that a particular race is superior to another" not "having having trouble relating to people of different backgrounds". That's not racist, its just human.

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carapace 10y ago
Well, my problems with Trump voters (or as I think of them, "the Idiocracy") start waaaay back in the sticks. You see, I've seen "Gremlins II". To me, voting for Donald Trump is like voting for Yosemite Sam. This is so much worse than Governor Schwarzenegger. I wake up in the middle of the night and experience a shock when my mind presents the thought, "President Trump". It's like Arthur Dent's early morning scream of horror as he recalls that he's stuck on prehistoric Earth. And this is all before we get to the racism, climate-denial, and so on. Tuesday night he sent his spokeswoman Hope Hicks to tell the press pool that he's in for the night. Then he bails and goes to dinner without telling the press, leaving Hicks to pick up after him. So either Hicks lied to the press or her boss burned her. The whole thing is unpresidential in my opinion, and no racism in sight.
- grzm 10y ago
  How will your opinions shape what you do for the next few years or so?
  - carapace 10y ago
    Why do you ask? ----- Quite frankly, I am in an existential crisis. The world no longer makes sense to me. The world that contains "President Trump" as a real thing is like... unreal. It's like I've woken up in some alternate reality, except it's not. This is real. Millions of people voted for Donald Trump for POTUS and to me that makes no sense. I don't think I'll do anything. What is there to do? Why bother?
    - grzm 10y ago
      Well, with strong opinions, I have hope that they'd motivate you to do something. I'm trying to figure out what I can do that's both constructive and effective. One of the things specifically I want to do is make sure I'm listening to people who I don't necessarily agree with and understand where they're coming from. With your tone and phrasing, particularly in your descriptions of Trump voters, and seeing a lot of similar language on both sides of the voting divide, I'm genuinely interested in how that's going to affect what you do. That was all thought of before I saw your comment updates. I hope you can figure out something that you feel is constructive. Feeling hopeless is terrible.
      - carapace 10y ago
        The thing is, my strong opinion is that Trump is basically a human cartoon character, so that leaves me just blown out of the water that so many people take him seriously. That's where I'm at right now, and where I've been this whole time he's been campaigning, like, "C'mon y'all, you're not serious. Where's Ashton Kusher, 'cause I'm being punk'd." And yet, here we are. So I don't want to participate. It's all fun and games until somebody elects Donald Trump president. Now I want off the planet, or back through the looking-glass, or whatever. I said, half-jokingly, that if Trump got elected I was going to sit in the middle of the largest nearby intersection with a sign around my neck saying "Give me food or kill me" and wait for death. I can't actually do that because I'm the breadwinner in my family, but yeah. Take my BS with a grain of salt: I'm a lonely curmudgeon with no friends who rarely leaves the house. ;-) As for constructive and effective things to do, call your reps, participate in government, keep communicating your values in word and deed. I really don't think this geriatric clowntroll will last four years. He has no idea of the demands that are going to be placed on him, and I think it will wipe him out in short order.

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carapace 10y ago

Well, my problems with Trump voters (or as I think of them, "the Idiocracy") start waaaay back in the sticks. You see, I've seen "Gremlins II". To me, voting for Donald Trump is like voting for Yosemite Sam. This is so much worse than Governor Schwarzenegger. I wake up in the middle of the night and experience a shock when my mind presents the thought, "President Trump". It's like Arthur Dent's early morning scream of horror as he recalls that he's stuck on prehistoric Earth. And this is all before we get to the racism, climate-denial, and so on. Tuesday night he sent his spokeswoman Hope Hicks to tell the press pool that he's in for the night. Then he bails and goes to dinner without telling the press, leaving Hicks to pick up after him. So either Hicks lied to the press or her boss burned her. The whole thing is unpresidential in my opinion, and no racism in sight.

grzm 10y ago
How will your opinions shape what you do for the next few years or so?
- carapace 10y ago
  Why do you ask? ----- Quite frankly, I am in an existential crisis. The world no longer makes sense to me. The world that contains "President Trump" as a real thing is like... unreal. It's like I've woken up in some alternate reality, except it's not. This is real. Millions of people voted for Donald Trump for POTUS and to me that makes no sense. I don't think I'll do anything. What is there to do? Why bother?
  - grzm 10y ago
    Well, with strong opinions, I have hope that they'd motivate you to do something. I'm trying to figure out what I can do that's both constructive and effective. One of the things specifically I want to do is make sure I'm listening to people who I don't necessarily agree with and understand where they're coming from. With your tone and phrasing, particularly in your descriptions of Trump voters, and seeing a lot of similar language on both sides of the voting divide, I'm genuinely interested in how that's going to affect what you do. That was all thought of before I saw your comment updates. I hope you can figure out something that you feel is constructive. Feeling hopeless is terrible.
    - carapace 10y ago
      The thing is, my strong opinion is that Trump is basically a human cartoon character, so that leaves me just blown out of the water that so many people take him seriously. That's where I'm at right now, and where I've been this whole time he's been campaigning, like, "C'mon y'all, you're not serious. Where's Ashton Kusher, 'cause I'm being punk'd." And yet, here we are. So I don't want to participate. It's all fun and games until somebody elects Donald Trump president. Now I want off the planet, or back through the looking-glass, or whatever. I said, half-jokingly, that if Trump got elected I was going to sit in the middle of the largest nearby intersection with a sign around my neck saying "Give me food or kill me" and wait for death. I can't actually do that because I'm the breadwinner in my family, but yeah. Take my BS with a grain of salt: I'm a lonely curmudgeon with no friends who rarely leaves the house. ;-) As for constructive and effective things to do, call your reps, participate in government, keep communicating your values in word and deed. I really don't think this geriatric clowntroll will last four years. He has no idea of the demands that are going to be placed on him, and I think it will wipe him out in short order.