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> It's no secret that Syrian refugees in Europe are disproportionately physically able males. What? I never heard that before, so took exactly on minute to Goo

by SamBam 10y ago

> It's no secret that Syrian refugees in Europe are disproportionately physically able males. What? I never heard that before, so took exactly on minute to Google "Syrian refugee demographics" and found that this myth originates with Ben Carson. In fact about 49.5% of Syrian refugees are male, and only 21.8% of them are males ages 18-59. https://www.factcheck.org/2015/09/stretching-facts-on-syrian-refugees/ https://www.factcheck.org/2015/09/stretching-facts-on-syrian...

wongarsu 10y ago
That article just cites UNHCR data [1], which is for immigrants registered in middle east (not immigrants in Europe). That's a completely different set of refugees than those that managed to arrive in Europe. Numbers for Europe look different. Lukily eurostat (the statistics department of the European Commission) has a great statistics tool. [2] shows that about 60% of Syrian refugees registered in Europe are male (a bit less in the last three months, more in the past). Of these males, about 50% are between 18 and 34 years old (again, it was more extreme, is becoming more normal in recent months) [3]. Compare this to the Syrian population (for example with data from the CIA world factbook), and you find that the people arriving in Europe are more likely to be male, and more likely to be young males, than the average Syrian population. It's not the gigantic trend that some people make out, but that's why I said "disproportiantely", not "exclusively". In any case it's no myth but a very real trend. 1: http://data.unhcr.org/syrianrefugees/regional.php http://data.unhcr.org/syrianrefugees/regional.php 2: http://appsso.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/nui/show.do?query=BOOKMARK_DS-055296_QID_3204DCCB_UID_-3F171EB0&layout=TIME,C,X,0;SEX,L,Y,0;CITIZEN,L,Z,0;GEO,L,Z,1;AGE,L,Z,2;ASYL_APP,L,Z,3;UNIT,L,Z,4;INDICATORS,C,Z,5;&zSelection=DS-055296ASYL_APP,ASY_APP;DS-055296UNIT,PER;DS-055296CITIZEN,SY;DS-055296GEO,EU28;DS-055296INDICATORS,OBS_FLAG;DS-055296AGE,TOTAL;&rankName1=UNIT_1_2_-1_2&rankName2=AGE_1_2_-1_2&rankName3=CITIZEN_1_2_-1_2&rankName4=INDICATORS_1_2_-1_2&rankName5=ASYL-APP_1_2_-1_2&rankName6=GEO_1_2_0_1&rankName7=TIME_1_0_0_0&rankName8=SEX_1_2_0_1&sortC=ASC_-1_FIRST&rStp=&cStp=&rDCh=&cDCh=&rDM=true&cDM=true&footnes=false&empty=false&wai=false&time_mode=ROLLING&time_most_recent=true&lang=EN&cfo=%23%23%23%2C%23%23%23.%23%23%23 http://appsso.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/nui/show.do?query=BOOKMA... 3: http://appsso.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/nui/show.do?query=BOOKMARK_DS-055296_QID_-7F1D398C_UID_-3F171EB0&layout=TIME,C,X,0;AGE,L,Y,0;CITIZEN,L,Z,0;GEO,L,Z,1;SEX,L,Z,2;ASYL_APP,L,Z,3;UNIT,L,Z,4;INDICATORS,C,Z,5;&zSelection=DS-055296ASYL_APP,ASY_APP;DS-055296UNIT,PER;DS-055296CITIZEN,SY;DS-055296GEO,EU28;DS-055296INDICATORS,OBS_FLAG;DS-055296SEX,M;&rankName1=UNIT_1_2_-1_2&rankName2=CITIZEN_1_2_-1_2&rankName3=INDICATORS_1_2_-1_2&rankName4=ASYL-APP_1_2_-1_2&rankName5=GEO_1_2_0_1&rankName6=SEX_1_2_0_1&rankName7=TIME_1_0_0_0&rankName8=AGE_1_2_0_1&sortC=ASC_-1_FIRST&rStp=&cStp=&rDCh=&cDCh=&rDM=true&cDM=true&footnes=false&empty=false&wai=false&time_mode=ROLLING&time_most_recent=true&lang=EN&cfo=%23%23%23%2C%23%23%23.%23%23%23 http://appsso.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/nui/show.do?query=BOOKMA...
- Steel_Phoenix 10y ago
  Men between the ages of 18 and 34? Otherwise referred to by the Obama administration as enemy combatants[1] I'm not sure what it says about a conflict when the people most likely to be able to defend their homes leave, while their families remain. 1: http://www.juancole.com/2012/05/how-obama-changed-definition-of-civilian-in-secret-drone-wars-woods.html http://www.juancole.com/2012/05/how-obama-changed-definition...

by SamBam 10y ago

wongarsu 10y ago

That article just cites UNHCR data [1], which is for immigrants registered in middle east (not immigrants in Europe). That's a completely different set of refugees than those that managed to arrive in Europe. Numbers for Europe look different. Lukily eurostat (the statistics department of the European Commission) has a great statistics tool. [2] shows that about 60% of Syrian refugees registered in Europe are male (a bit less in the last three months, more in the past). Of these males, about 50% are between 18 and 34 years old (again, it was more extreme, is becoming more normal in recent months) [3]. Compare this to the Syrian population (for example with data from the CIA world factbook), and you find that the people arriving in Europe are more likely to be male, and more likely to be young males, than the average Syrian population. It's not the gigantic trend that some people make out, but that's why I said "disproportiantely", not "exclusively". In any case it's no myth but a very real trend. 1: http://data.unhcr.org/syrianrefugees/regional.php http://data.unhcr.org/syrianrefugees/regional.php 2: http://appsso.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/nui/show.do?query=BOOKMARK_DS-055296_QID_3204DCCB_UID_-3F171EB0&layout=TIME,C,X,0;SEX,L,Y,0;CITIZEN,L,Z,0;GEO,L,Z,1;AGE,L,Z,2;ASYL_APP,L,Z,3;UNIT,L,Z,4;INDICATORS,C,Z,5;&zSelection=DS-055296ASYL_APP,ASY_APP;DS-055296UNIT,PER;DS-055296CITIZEN,SY;DS-055296GEO,EU28;DS-055296INDICATORS,OBS_FLAG;DS-055296AGE,TOTAL;&rankName1=UNIT_1_2_-1_2&rankName2=AGE_1_2_-1_2&rankName3=CITIZEN_1_2_-1_2&rankName4=INDICATORS_1_2_-1_2&rankName5=ASYL-APP_1_2_-1_2&rankName6=GEO_1_2_0_1&rankName7=TIME_1_0_0_0&rankName8=SEX_1_2_0_1&sortC=ASC_-1_FIRST&rStp=&cStp=&rDCh=&cDCh=&rDM=true&cDM=true&footnes=false&empty=false&wai=false&time_mode=ROLLING&time_most_recent=true&lang=EN&cfo=%23%23%23%2C%23%23%23.%23%23%23 http://appsso.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/nui/show.do?query=BOOKMA... 3: http://appsso.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/nui/show.do?query=BOOKMARK_DS-055296_QID_-7F1D398C_UID_-3F171EB0&layout=TIME,C,X,0;AGE,L,Y,0;CITIZEN,L,Z,0;GEO,L,Z,1;SEX,L,Z,2;ASYL_APP,L,Z,3;UNIT,L,Z,4;INDICATORS,C,Z,5;&zSelection=DS-055296ASYL_APP,ASY_APP;DS-055296UNIT,PER;DS-055296CITIZEN,SY;DS-055296GEO,EU28;DS-055296INDICATORS,OBS_FLAG;DS-055296SEX,M;&rankName1=UNIT_1_2_-1_2&rankName2=CITIZEN_1_2_-1_2&rankName3=INDICATORS_1_2_-1_2&rankName4=ASYL-APP_1_2_-1_2&rankName5=GEO_1_2_0_1&rankName6=SEX_1_2_0_1&rankName7=TIME_1_0_0_0&rankName8=AGE_1_2_0_1&sortC=ASC_-1_FIRST&rStp=&cStp=&rDCh=&cDCh=&rDM=true&cDM=true&footnes=false&empty=false&wai=false&time_mode=ROLLING&time_most_recent=true&lang=EN&cfo=%23%23%23%2C%23%23%23.%23%23%23 http://appsso.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/nui/show.do?query=BOOKMA...

Steel_Phoenix 10y ago
Men between the ages of 18 and 34? Otherwise referred to by the Obama administration as enemy combatants[1] I'm not sure what it says about a conflict when the people most likely to be able to defend their homes leave, while their families remain. 1: http://www.juancole.com/2012/05/how-obama-changed-definition-of-civilian-in-secret-drone-wars-woods.html http://www.juancole.com/2012/05/how-obama-changed-definition...