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wait. even though the veteran was suicidal, it's that he used the wrong phone number? i'm confused. veterans go though a unique form of stress. and they get

wait. even though the veteran was suicidal, it's that he used the wrong phone number? i'm confused. veterans go though a unique form of stress. and they get seperate medical care etc, which I hear is not always that great.

Noseshine 10y ago
He wasn't suicidal. He just call the wrong hotline. > A disabled vet with PTSD accidentally called a suicide prevention hotline when > intending to dial the Veterans Crisis Line. Very first line in the article.
- mrcactu5 10y ago
  so why was he calling the Veteran's crisis line?
  - mikeash 10y ago
    Because he couldn't sleep, and it's implied he was having trouble with his PTSD. Is it too much to ask to read the article?
    - 086421357909764 10y ago
      To follow your comment, numerous veterans un-able to get support locally through their VA office have used the line as a last ditch effort to get support. Knowing you are suffering from a mental health issue isn't the same as being suicidal.
  - giarc 10y ago
    Really helps to read the article. >On the night of February 2, 2010, suffering from sleep deprivation, he inadvertently phoned the National Suicide Hotline when dialing a number he thought to be a Veterans Crisis Line.
- stonemetal 10y ago
  Veterans Crisis Line is a suicide prevention hotline setup by the VA for Vets. So yeah he called the wrong suicide prevention line but he still intended to call suicide prevention.
  - Noseshine 10y ago
    As I understand it, and I checked their "About" page to make sure [0], their focus is broader and they want you to call them well before suicidal thoughts, which is why they don't have "suicide" in the name. > In 2011, the National Veterans Suicide Prevention Hotline was renamed the Veterans Crisis > Line to encourage Veterans and their families and friends to make the call. People who know > a Veteran best may be the first to recognize emotional distress and reach out for support > when issues reach a crisis point — and well before a Veteran is at risk of suicide. [0] https://www.veteranscrisisline.net/About/AboutVeteransCrisisLine.aspx https://www.veteranscrisisline.net/About/AboutVeteransCrisis...
    - gohrt 10y ago
      Splitting semantic hairs. The name changed, but the phone number didn't; the goal is still suicide prevention, but with an attempt to avoid the stigma that comes with "suicide" in the name.
      - Noseshine 10y ago
        It is not "splitting hairs"! Did you read the article? There is a difference between acute suicide prevention and general prevention! You would not expect the kind of reaction that he got when calling this hotline, because they don't assume an immediate case of suicide that they have to send police to without delay!
    - stonemetal 10y ago
      I would agree that they handle more than suicide response, but I would disagree that they are not primarily suicide response. If you call not in immediate crisis it sounds like they are going to refer you to the closest suicide prevention coordinator. From their when to call page: >If you’re thinking of hurting yourself, looking for ways to kill yourself, or becoming self-destructive, don’t continue to face it alone. Contact the Veterans Crisis Line immediately... >For Veterans NOT in immediate crisis: >Help is always available. Suicide Prevention Coordinators are at all VA Medical Centers (VAMCs) nationwide and work closely with Veterans dealing with mental health conditions and with difficult life events and experiences. https://www.veteranscrisisline.net/GetHelp/WhenToCall.aspx https://www.veteranscrisisline.net/GetHelp/WhenToCall.aspx
mikeash 10y ago
He wasn't suicidal, he just called the suicide hotline by accident. I'm not too surprised that the suicide hotline had trouble handling someone who wasn't suicidal. I called one once, trying to figure out how to help a mentally ill person who had been e-mailing me. They weren't exactly the appropriate place to call, but this person was in another country and they were the first people I could think of to at least point me in the right direction. They did help, but they also kept asking me questions like, "does this make you suicidal?" Strange experience, although it did work out fine in the end for me.
altendo 10y ago
He called the right number. The Veterans' Crisis Line and National Suicide Hotline are the same phone numbers (1-800-273-8255). When you call that number, you need to press 1 at the audio prompt to switch over to the line specific to veterans.

Noseshine 10y ago

He wasn't suicidal. He just call the wrong hotline. > A disabled vet with PTSD accidentally called a suicide prevention hotline when > intending to dial the Veterans Crisis Line. Very first line in the article.

mrcactu5 10y ago
so why was he calling the Veteran's crisis line?
- mikeash 10y ago
  Because he couldn't sleep, and it's implied he was having trouble with his PTSD. Is it too much to ask to read the article?
  - 086421357909764 10y ago
    To follow your comment, numerous veterans un-able to get support locally through their VA office have used the line as a last ditch effort to get support. Knowing you are suffering from a mental health issue isn't the same as being suicidal.
- giarc 10y ago
  Really helps to read the article. >On the night of February 2, 2010, suffering from sleep deprivation, he inadvertently phoned the National Suicide Hotline when dialing a number he thought to be a Veterans Crisis Line.
stonemetal 10y ago
Veterans Crisis Line is a suicide prevention hotline setup by the VA for Vets. So yeah he called the wrong suicide prevention line but he still intended to call suicide prevention.
- Noseshine 10y ago
  As I understand it, and I checked their "About" page to make sure [0], their focus is broader and they want you to call them well before suicidal thoughts, which is why they don't have "suicide" in the name. > In 2011, the National Veterans Suicide Prevention Hotline was renamed the Veterans Crisis > Line to encourage Veterans and their families and friends to make the call. People who know > a Veteran best may be the first to recognize emotional distress and reach out for support > when issues reach a crisis point — and well before a Veteran is at risk of suicide. [0] https://www.veteranscrisisline.net/About/AboutVeteransCrisisLine.aspx https://www.veteranscrisisline.net/About/AboutVeteransCrisis...
  - gohrt 10y ago
    Splitting semantic hairs. The name changed, but the phone number didn't; the goal is still suicide prevention, but with an attempt to avoid the stigma that comes with "suicide" in the name.
    - Noseshine 10y ago
      It is not "splitting hairs"! Did you read the article? There is a difference between acute suicide prevention and general prevention! You would not expect the kind of reaction that he got when calling this hotline, because they don't assume an immediate case of suicide that they have to send police to without delay!
  - stonemetal 10y ago
    I would agree that they handle more than suicide response, but I would disagree that they are not primarily suicide response. If you call not in immediate crisis it sounds like they are going to refer you to the closest suicide prevention coordinator. From their when to call page: >If you’re thinking of hurting yourself, looking for ways to kill yourself, or becoming self-destructive, don’t continue to face it alone. Contact the Veterans Crisis Line immediately... >For Veterans NOT in immediate crisis: >Help is always available. Suicide Prevention Coordinators are at all VA Medical Centers (VAMCs) nationwide and work closely with Veterans dealing with mental health conditions and with difficult life events and experiences. https://www.veteranscrisisline.net/GetHelp/WhenToCall.aspx https://www.veteranscrisisline.net/GetHelp/WhenToCall.aspx

mikeash 10y ago

He wasn't suicidal, he just called the suicide hotline by accident. I'm not too surprised that the suicide hotline had trouble handling someone who wasn't suicidal. I called one once, trying to figure out how to help a mentally ill person who had been e-mailing me. They weren't exactly the appropriate place to call, but this person was in another country and they were the first people I could think of to at least point me in the right direction. They did help, but they also kept asking me questions like, "does this make you suicidal?" Strange experience, although it did work out fine in the end for me.

altendo 10y ago

He called the right number. The Veterans' Crisis Line and National Suicide Hotline are the same phone numbers (1-800-273-8255). When you call that number, you need to press 1 at the audio prompt to switch over to the line specific to veterans.