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Try to step out of your own perspective and look at it from the other side. I'm not asking you to agree with the other side, just to give it a fair shake befor

Try to step out of your own perspective and look at it from the other side. I'm not asking you to agree with the other side, just to give it a fair shake before putting it down. Consider the viewpoint of a parent of a young (10-year-old) child. That parent sends their 10-year-old daughter into the women's restroom. If that restroom can be legally entered by any person who is willing to say out loud "I feel like I am a woman", that restroom is open to any number of adult men who prey on children to enter. Yes, this is the ever-present, sometimes-alarmist "who will think of the children" argument. But being a tired argument doesn't make it an inaccurate or illegitimate one. If there is no answer given for it, then it remains valid, if eventually tiring to hear.

TheCoelacanth 10y ago
> that restroom can be legally entered by any person who is willing to say out loud "I feel like I am a woman" That's a conservative talking point, not the reality of the situation. In reality, a trans person will have to go far beyond just feeling like a woman to get away with entering a women's room; they will also have to take substantial steps towards looking like a woman.
- jimmywanger 10y ago
  Actually, you don't. You don't even have to feel like a woman to enter a woman's room, you just have to say you identify as a woman. "Substantial steps towards looking like a woman." What does a woman look like? A woman looks like whatever she chooses to look like. Actually, she sort of looks like me after Taco Tuesdays where I have to use the restroom really badly and all the stalls in the men's bathroom are full. If you are demanding that a "real woman" make herself subservient to what society thinks a real woman should look like, or maybe even get a note from a doctor diagnosing gender dysmorphia, I would advise you to check your cis privilege. /s
  - TheCoelacanth 10y ago
    Go to a state that doesn't have a bathroom bill and walk into the women's room claiming that you feel like a woman and let me know how that works out for you.
    - jimmywanger 10y ago
      Sure. Do that in any company bathroom and nobody will say anything.

TheCoelacanth 10y ago

> that restroom can be legally entered by any person who is willing to say out loud "I feel like I am a woman" That's a conservative talking point, not the reality of the situation. In reality, a trans person will have to go far beyond just feeling like a woman to get away with entering a women's room; they will also have to take substantial steps towards looking like a woman.

jimmywanger 10y ago
Actually, you don't. You don't even have to feel like a woman to enter a woman's room, you just have to say you identify as a woman. "Substantial steps towards looking like a woman." What does a woman look like? A woman looks like whatever she chooses to look like. Actually, she sort of looks like me after Taco Tuesdays where I have to use the restroom really badly and all the stalls in the men's bathroom are full. If you are demanding that a "real woman" make herself subservient to what society thinks a real woman should look like, or maybe even get a note from a doctor diagnosing gender dysmorphia, I would advise you to check your cis privilege. /s
- TheCoelacanth 10y ago
  Go to a state that doesn't have a bathroom bill and walk into the women's room claiming that you feel like a woman and let me know how that works out for you.
  - jimmywanger 10y ago
    Sure. Do that in any company bathroom and nobody will say anything.