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> Purely from logic, your claim has to be false: Imagine a humanoid robot sitting in your driver's seat, driving your manual transmission car, its robot arm doi

by Aaargh20318 10y ago

> Purely from logic, your claim has to be false: Imagine a humanoid robot sitting in your driver's seat, driving your manual transmission car, its robot arm doing the shifting exactly as a human would. Your manual car has been turned into an automatic and it is not less efficient. You're forgetting a very important factor: the automatic transmission can only respond to the drivers actions. Unlike the driver it has no knowledge of future plans. It will happily shift up 2 seconds before I hit the brakes because it has no idea I'm planning to take a left turn in 20 meters.

beeglebug 10y ago
A lot of cars today are probably more aware of what is going to happen in 20 meters than the driver is. Surely the same data that is used for automatic braking, lane assist etc could be used to improve timings on automatic gear shifts?
- Aaargh20318 10y ago
  > Surely the same data that is used for automatic braking, lane assist etc could be used to improve timings on automatic gear shifts? I don't think that data is very useful in city driving where most of the shifting happens. No radar or lane detector can detect my intention of taking the next exit on the left. That being said, I remember reading a piece a while back about a car manufacturer working on linking the car's navigation/GPS to the automatic transmission. So as long as you enter the destination in the GPS it can make more informed decisions.
kps 10y ago
> It will happily shift up 2 seconds before I hit the brakes because > it has no idea I'm planning to take a left turn in 20 meters. Purely hypothetically, a car could be fitted with an operator control to convey that sort of intent. It could be something the driver could operate without taking their hands off the wheel — perhaps a stick on the left of the steering column?
- fnj 10y ago
  You already have one of those. If you are driving a 4-speed automatic, you can see that you are in 3rd and sense that it might be about to upshift and a turn is coming up, you can whip it from D to 3 to hold it in 3rd for the duration.

beeglebug 10y ago

A lot of cars today are probably more aware of what is going to happen in 20 meters than the driver is. Surely the same data that is used for automatic braking, lane assist etc could be used to improve timings on automatic gear shifts?

Aaargh20318 10y ago
> Surely the same data that is used for automatic braking, lane assist etc could be used to improve timings on automatic gear shifts? I don't think that data is very useful in city driving where most of the shifting happens. No radar or lane detector can detect my intention of taking the next exit on the left. That being said, I remember reading a piece a while back about a car manufacturer working on linking the car's navigation/GPS to the automatic transmission. So as long as you enter the destination in the GPS it can make more informed decisions.

kps 10y ago

> It will happily shift up 2 seconds before I hit the brakes because > it has no idea I'm planning to take a left turn in 20 meters. Purely hypothetically, a car could be fitted with an operator control to convey that sort of intent. It could be something the driver could operate without taking their hands off the wheel — perhaps a stick on the left of the steering column?

fnj 10y ago
You already have one of those. If you are driving a 4-speed automatic, you can see that you are in 3rd and sense that it might be about to upshift and a turn is coming up, you can whip it from D to 3 to hold it in 3rd for the duration.