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Let's hope it won't be as ugly as the Java crap. Or Tk.
by creshal 10y ago
Let's hope it won't be as ugly as the Java crap. Or Tk.
- pron 10y agoDo you mean the old Java crap, like https://netbeans.org/images_www/screenshots/platform/jmonkeyengine.png https://netbeans.org/images_www/screenshots/platform/jmonkey... https://netbeans.org/images_www/screenshots/platform/nbAWSAdministrator.png https://netbeans.org/images_www/screenshots/platform/nbAWSAd... https://netbeans.org/images_www/screenshots/platform/lg_soft.png https://netbeans.org/images_www/screenshots/platform/lg_soft... https://netbeans.org/images_www/screenshots/platform/GGSSEphemerisVisualization.jpg https://netbeans.org/images_www/screenshots/platform/GGSSEph... https://netbeans.org/images_www/screenshots/platform/platypus-nb.jpg https://netbeans.org/images_www/screenshots/platform/platypu... https://netbeans.org/images_www/screenshots/platform/blueMarine.jpg https://netbeans.org/images_www/screenshots/platform/blueMar... or the new Java crap like http://fxexperience.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Charts-Bar-152839_1080x675.png http://fxexperience.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Charts-Ba... http://docs.oracle.com/javafx/2/best_practices/img/saleshistorytab-small.png http://docs.oracle.com/javafx/2/best_practices/img/saleshist... https://blog.idrsolutions.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/viewer_drop_down.png https://blog.idrsolutions.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/vie... ??
- geodel 10y agoNo need to go further, just look at jconsole bundled with latest Java. It looks like crap to me.
- pron 10y agojconsole is a very old, discontinued program, but it looks alright to me: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ji9hahszxttpetx/jconsole.png?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/ji9hahszxttpetx/jconsole.png?dl=0 The newer bundled jvisualvm also looks fine: https://www.dropbox.com/s/549exowkau3ry3t/jvisualvm.png?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/549exowkau3ry3t/jvisualvm.png?dl=0
- scrollaway 10y agoFunny, Java, using the default UI widgets, always looks a lot closer to this on my system: https://i.stack.imgur.com/9UwJK.png https://i.stack.imgur.com/9UwJK.png
- pron 10y agoThe screenshots are of the default widgets. The only question is which is the selected look-and-feel (for the "old" Swing toolkit), or the style sheet (in the new JavaFX).
- kalleboo 10y agoYes
- creshal 10y agoYes. Both look ugly and not even close to native.
- pron 10y agoOn my Mac they look as close to native as any other app, which is to say that applications no longer have a uniform look anymore anyway. Chrome, Firefox, Twitter, my email client and all of my editors look no more "native" than modern Java apps like NetBeans or IntelliJ.
- dbl9 10y agoIf you consider that many gui apps are written with HTML right now, I wouldn't worry about the looks of the toolkit as much, as long as it integrates and behaves as expected in X and Wayland and Windows and macOS and iOS and Android. That's more important than a skin, although I know many users prefer their platform's "native look", but what's native anyway, with mobile apps and web apps styling in many different ways. Even native Windows and macOS apps, which has a native look and feel, these days prefer to use a custom style, with most of the time following the design of vast empty white spaces and large controls, assuming everybody uses a 4k display. What I'm trying to say is, if this comes out of the box and works reliably, then it'll attract more developers given the other ease of deployment aspects of Go.