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I don't think the parent has the same idea, but from my personal experience, it is almost impossible to not break speed limits in a stick shift car. Same is no

by lqdc13 10y ago

I don't think the parent has the same idea, but from my personal experience, it is almost impossible to not break speed limits in a stick shift car. Same is not true in my case for automatic. Better have other drivers be safe and eco conscious.

micaksica 10y ago
What? How? That's like saying because the car has a V8 instead of a four-cylinder it breaks speed limits. What are you doing with a stick shift that requires you to speed?
- lqdc13 10y ago
  It is way more fun to drive, weave through traffic and to take turns at higher speed because of heel-toe downshifting than driving the same car with automatic. You feel like you are one with the car sometimes. You feel like you are in control. You hear the engine obey your every command. In an automatic car (only extensive experience with Subaru and Hondas) you feel like you are in a bus. It feels completely irresponsible to break rules. And the best part is that it doesn't have to be a fast car. My favorite was a Honda. I got too many speeding tickets in a manual so had to switch to automatic. But every time I go to Europe, where the rental cars are manual and roads are curvy, staying reasonable and safe requires too much self control. Regarding V8 vs 4-cyl, I think controlling myself in a 4-cyl is much harder than in the 8-cyls I've driven. The reason is that 4-cyls (obviously not true for all of them and one can tune the power band to be of any shape on any car) require you to raise the RPM since they don't have that much torque down low. That engine noise gives you that initial boost of adrenaline that starts the whole thing. This may not be true for all cars though since I've only driven Ford Mustang and Lexus V8s and mostly Hondas and Subarus 4-cyl.
  - seszett 10y ago
    > staying reasonable and safe requires too much self control. I wouldn't say manual transmission is the main problem here. I'm able to not break law when driving, and apparently most people in Europe are, even though we are mostly driving manual. I really hated driving automatics though, especially since my only experience with them was in the mountains of Taiwan and Japan. You just have so little control, and you feel the car struggle when you know it should just shift gears already, or shouldn't shift at all because you're going to slow down in 5 seconds.
    - lqdc13 10y ago
      Well, that mismanagement of the powerband is so frustrating to me that I lose interest in driving altogether thus making it safer. I might be an anomaly though.

by lqdc13 10y ago

micaksica 10y ago

What? How? That's like saying because the car has a V8 instead of a four-cylinder it breaks speed limits. What are you doing with a stick shift that requires you to speed?

lqdc13 10y ago
It is way more fun to drive, weave through traffic and to take turns at higher speed because of heel-toe downshifting than driving the same car with automatic. You feel like you are one with the car sometimes. You feel like you are in control. You hear the engine obey your every command. In an automatic car (only extensive experience with Subaru and Hondas) you feel like you are in a bus. It feels completely irresponsible to break rules. And the best part is that it doesn't have to be a fast car. My favorite was a Honda. I got too many speeding tickets in a manual so had to switch to automatic. But every time I go to Europe, where the rental cars are manual and roads are curvy, staying reasonable and safe requires too much self control. Regarding V8 vs 4-cyl, I think controlling myself in a 4-cyl is much harder than in the 8-cyls I've driven. The reason is that 4-cyls (obviously not true for all of them and one can tune the power band to be of any shape on any car) require you to raise the RPM since they don't have that much torque down low. That engine noise gives you that initial boost of adrenaline that starts the whole thing. This may not be true for all cars though since I've only driven Ford Mustang and Lexus V8s and mostly Hondas and Subarus 4-cyl.
- seszett 10y ago
  > staying reasonable and safe requires too much self control. I wouldn't say manual transmission is the main problem here. I'm able to not break law when driving, and apparently most people in Europe are, even though we are mostly driving manual. I really hated driving automatics though, especially since my only experience with them was in the mountains of Taiwan and Japan. You just have so little control, and you feel the car struggle when you know it should just shift gears already, or shouldn't shift at all because you're going to slow down in 5 seconds.
  - lqdc13 10y ago
    Well, that mismanagement of the powerband is so frustrating to me that I lose interest in driving altogether thus making it safer. I might be an anomaly though.