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1. Why is everyone here condoning the act of these people to make _extra_ money? 2. If you are doing such shady stuff create a new Gmail account and do it

Figs 10y ago
Regarding question 1: (1) Because the First Sale Doctrine is supposed to give people the right to resell their legally acquired goods. Retaliating against people who resell something they paid for already is extremely bad form on Google's part, even if they have found a tortuous way to legally do so. (2) Regardless of whether Google was justified or legally within their rights to do so, cutting off people's email with no warning is alarming. Many people depend on Google's email and data storage services; if they're going to cut off your access because they don't like what you've done on something completely unrelated that may be a good sign that all of us should stop using Google's services while we can still do so gracefully. What if next they decide that they don't want to continue offering email service to people who bought an iPhone instead of an Android? Or people who voted for Trump? They could most likely determine both of those facts if you are using GMail as your primary email provider... People here aren't really approving of what those folks out to make a quick buck were doing specifically -- they're concerned about the way Google does business.
- whyagaindavid 10y ago
  Thanks for (1). BTW, if it makes business sense for the folks to resell mainly for profit; google can also retaliate in a way they like to respond. This is like tax-evasion - if you find better accountants/tax-consultants you do better than your govt. In principle -> these people tried to outsmart Google -> and got outsmarted. Not that I am justifying Google's actions. For (2) I look at it from a different point of view. I am glad that Google did not cut email for some random Joe - just using a random-number-generator. Only those that did something which _may_ be hurting their business. please note, I am not supporting G totally. > What if next they decide that they don't want to continue offering email service to people who bought an iPhone instead of an Android? But what is your problem then? If they do not offer please move away. It is the same with apple; unless you have a _actual_ apple hardware you cant open appleID or even watch apple live product launches. While I am not condoning Google or apple, it is how they want to do business.
- tyingq 10y ago
  >cutting off people's email with no warning is alarming. And, by cutting off the google account, they may have cut off other critical services for that customer. Off the top of my head: - Google Authenticator 2FA (ouch, that could be messy) - Google Voice, to the point where you might lose the phone number. - Adwords, Adsense, Appspot, GCE, Google Domains, etc

Figs 10y ago

Regarding question 1: (1) Because the First Sale Doctrine is supposed to give people the right to resell their legally acquired goods. Retaliating against people who resell something they paid for already is extremely bad form on Google's part, even if they have found a tortuous way to legally do so. (2) Regardless of whether Google was justified or legally within their rights to do so, cutting off people's email with no warning is alarming. Many people depend on Google's email and data storage services; if they're going to cut off your access because they don't like what you've done on something completely unrelated that may be a good sign that all of us should stop using Google's services while we can still do so gracefully. What if next they decide that they don't want to continue offering email service to people who bought an iPhone instead of an Android? Or people who voted for Trump? They could most likely determine both of those facts if you are using GMail as your primary email provider... People here aren't really approving of what those folks out to make a quick buck were doing specifically -- they're concerned about the way Google does business.

whyagaindavid 10y ago
Thanks for (1). BTW, if it makes business sense for the folks to resell mainly for profit; google can also retaliate in a way they like to respond. This is like tax-evasion - if you find better accountants/tax-consultants you do better than your govt. In principle -> these people tried to outsmart Google -> and got outsmarted. Not that I am justifying Google's actions. For (2) I look at it from a different point of view. I am glad that Google did not cut email for some random Joe - just using a random-number-generator. Only those that did something which _may_ be hurting their business. please note, I am not supporting G totally. > What if next they decide that they don't want to continue offering email service to people who bought an iPhone instead of an Android? But what is your problem then? If they do not offer please move away. It is the same with apple; unless you have a _actual_ apple hardware you cant open appleID or even watch apple live product launches. While I am not condoning Google or apple, it is how they want to do business.
tyingq 10y ago
>cutting off people's email with no warning is alarming. And, by cutting off the google account, they may have cut off other critical services for that customer. Off the top of my head: - Google Authenticator 2FA (ouch, that could be messy) - Google Voice, to the point where you might lose the phone number. - Adwords, Adsense, Appspot, GCE, Google Domains, etc