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>There is no need whatsoever for these theatrics over a simple disagreement, for crying out loud. Oh I dunno, it might have something to do with you implying t

>There is no need whatsoever for these theatrics over a simple disagreement, for crying out loud. Oh I dunno, it might have something to do with you implying that I support the idea of any person telling any other person to kill themselves. >You will note that I said Twitter has no issues with those with leftist political leanings telling others to kill themselves. That statement is still true, but misleading in the light of what you linked here. Twitter apparently has no issue with anyone telling others to kill themselves. That was an awfully artful way of saying you were full of shit without having to actually admit you were wrong. Nice. Ironically, I was actually remarking, just hours ago, about Twitter's horrible moderation and response to abuse before even seeing this thread. I would have readily agreed that they suck at handling abuse, but instead you went with "a liberal conspiracy to allow threats towards conservatives" despite the incredible ease of finding counter examples.

Karunamon 10y ago
you implying that I support the idea of any person telling any other person to kill themselves. !? Holy shit dude, if that's what I implied, I apologize, because that was absolutely not my intent whatsoever. That statement was directed at Twitter, not you. That was an awfully artful way of saying you were full of shit without having to actually admit you were wrong. I was wrong. Better? I was more interested in trying to figure out how and why I was wrong. but instead you went with "a liberal conspiracy to allow threats towards conservatives" despite the incredible ease of finding counter examples. Fine, we'll instead go with "a liberal conspiracy to to place angry conservative tweets as more important than terrorist propaganda", something for which there is plenty of evidence of.
- colemickens 10y ago
  >Fine, we'll instead go with "a liberal conspiracy to to place angry conservative tweets as more important than terrorist propaganda", something for which there is plenty of evidence of. And someone already addressed that alternative flavor of absurdity yesterday too. Twitter has purged hundreds of thousands of terrorism-related accounts and continues to do so. (I'm sure you'll counter with the Hamas account, but you already know why that's a poor counter example when faced with hundreds of thousands of accounts being purged). BTW, this is called "moving the goalposts". Are you now asserting that Twitter intentionally allows terrorism accounts to proliferate? Or are you implying that they have an account banning quota and they use it all up on conservatives and have none left over for terrorists? God damn, the mental gymnastics here are just something else.
  - Karunamon 10y ago
    Except the Hamas account (and others) had been around for a lot longer, and received more reports, and they decided to do something about it only (coincidentally, I'm sure...) after a lawsuit was filed. Did the CEO get off his ass and talk to someone from the State dept? No, but he sure got off his ass to talk to some random Hollywood celeb who was getting mean tweets. As I said earlier, and you apparently missed in your angry rant, 235k accounts is nothing. It's utter child's play, given how disposable Twitter accounts are. Twitter has a "trust and safety" team that's entirely far too concerned about feminist's feelings and not concerned near enough with terrorists using their platform. If that makes me this terrible monster, sign me up.
    - colemickens 10y ago
      I literally pre-empted your whining about Hamas and yet you went straight for it anyway. You and I and everyone else know why the Hamas account sticks around. Not everyone views them as a terrorist organization, certainly not in the same family as ISIS. And the 235K thing? I could've said a million, or a billion and you'd just spit out the same cop-out answer that "it's not enough". You've created an argument that carries no weight, requires no evidence or actual numbers. You just keep handwaving and yelling "what about all those terrorist accounts", all whilst only clinging to your single, knowingly flawed example. Never mind the fact that this is all still a distraction to cover up how wrong you were at the outset of this conversation. And of course you've moved the goal posts even further by again inventing yet another evidence-less claim that Twitter is somehow bogged down with "feminists' feelings". You didn't even try to qualify that assertion. You just made up some new bullshit claim to try and throw out there and see if it sticks without any support whatsoever. Besides, if you think Twitter is unable to handle any other abuse because they're bogged down with "feminist's feelings"... I don't even know what to say other than are you freaking kidding me? One, I see dozens of posts saying far more disgusting things aimed at women than 'kill yourself' every week on Twitter. Two, Twitter can do more than one thing at one time and continutes to take down new accounts linked to terror groups constantly. And of course you're the type of person to classify mob harassment of women, death threats and sexual harassment as "feminist's feeling" because you're a jerk with an agenda who doesn't care about reality, facts, or discourse. It's also painfully obvious that you skirted my explicit questions from the last post because they exemplify how completely nonsensical your characterization of Twitter is. It's like I'm talking to a delusional, angry GamerGater who pulls "feminism" out of nowhere as some sort of wildcard to distract from the absurd claims in this thread. I look forward to your next post where you again ignore everything I wrote, repeat your unsubstantiated nonsense again and probably move the goal posts for a third time.

Karunamon 10y ago

you implying that I support the idea of any person telling any other person to kill themselves. !? Holy shit dude, if that's what I implied, I apologize, because that was absolutely not my intent whatsoever. That statement was directed at Twitter, not you. That was an awfully artful way of saying you were full of shit without having to actually admit you were wrong. I was wrong. Better? I was more interested in trying to figure out how and why I was wrong. but instead you went with "a liberal conspiracy to allow threats towards conservatives" despite the incredible ease of finding counter examples. Fine, we'll instead go with "a liberal conspiracy to to place angry conservative tweets as more important than terrorist propaganda", something for which there is plenty of evidence of.

colemickens 10y ago
>Fine, we'll instead go with "a liberal conspiracy to to place angry conservative tweets as more important than terrorist propaganda", something for which there is plenty of evidence of. And someone already addressed that alternative flavor of absurdity yesterday too. Twitter has purged hundreds of thousands of terrorism-related accounts and continues to do so. (I'm sure you'll counter with the Hamas account, but you already know why that's a poor counter example when faced with hundreds of thousands of accounts being purged). BTW, this is called "moving the goalposts". Are you now asserting that Twitter intentionally allows terrorism accounts to proliferate? Or are you implying that they have an account banning quota and they use it all up on conservatives and have none left over for terrorists? God damn, the mental gymnastics here are just something else.
- Karunamon 10y ago
  Except the Hamas account (and others) had been around for a lot longer, and received more reports, and they decided to do something about it only (coincidentally, I'm sure...) after a lawsuit was filed. Did the CEO get off his ass and talk to someone from the State dept? No, but he sure got off his ass to talk to some random Hollywood celeb who was getting mean tweets. As I said earlier, and you apparently missed in your angry rant, 235k accounts is nothing. It's utter child's play, given how disposable Twitter accounts are. Twitter has a "trust and safety" team that's entirely far too concerned about feminist's feelings and not concerned near enough with terrorists using their platform. If that makes me this terrible monster, sign me up.
  - colemickens 10y ago
    I literally pre-empted your whining about Hamas and yet you went straight for it anyway. You and I and everyone else know why the Hamas account sticks around. Not everyone views them as a terrorist organization, certainly not in the same family as ISIS. And the 235K thing? I could've said a million, or a billion and you'd just spit out the same cop-out answer that "it's not enough". You've created an argument that carries no weight, requires no evidence or actual numbers. You just keep handwaving and yelling "what about all those terrorist accounts", all whilst only clinging to your single, knowingly flawed example. Never mind the fact that this is all still a distraction to cover up how wrong you were at the outset of this conversation. And of course you've moved the goal posts even further by again inventing yet another evidence-less claim that Twitter is somehow bogged down with "feminists' feelings". You didn't even try to qualify that assertion. You just made up some new bullshit claim to try and throw out there and see if it sticks without any support whatsoever. Besides, if you think Twitter is unable to handle any other abuse because they're bogged down with "feminist's feelings"... I don't even know what to say other than are you freaking kidding me? One, I see dozens of posts saying far more disgusting things aimed at women than 'kill yourself' every week on Twitter. Two, Twitter can do more than one thing at one time and continutes to take down new accounts linked to terror groups constantly. And of course you're the type of person to classify mob harassment of women, death threats and sexual harassment as "feminist's feeling" because you're a jerk with an agenda who doesn't care about reality, facts, or discourse. It's also painfully obvious that you skirted my explicit questions from the last post because they exemplify how completely nonsensical your characterization of Twitter is. It's like I'm talking to a delusional, angry GamerGater who pulls "feminism" out of nowhere as some sort of wildcard to distract from the absurd claims in this thread. I look forward to your next post where you again ignore everything I wrote, repeat your unsubstantiated nonsense again and probably move the goal posts for a third time.