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""I don't like Goldman Sachs" is an opinion you can debate on its merits. "Kill all the Jew bankers" is not. The boundary is somewhere in between those two." I
by kbart 10y ago
""I don't like Goldman Sachs" is an opinion you can debate on its merits. "Kill all the Jew bankers" is not. The boundary is somewhere in between those two."
I don't agree. "Kill all the X" is a hate speech and, depending on context, a threat of violence -- we already have tools/laws to act against such, so there's no need for more censorship.
- exclusiv 10y agoSo true. Strategically most people should want people with those beliefs saying stuff like that publicly! Does it make any sense to push the fringe away and offline when we can let them expose themselves and then monitor them?
- tootie 10y agoI'm giving it as an example of something unequivocal. There is a ton of equivocal hate speech and Trump and his supporters were a boundless font of subtle, implied hate speech that never quite said what everyone heard. What about statements like when Trump said "2nd amendment people" could stop Hillary? Or simply spreading disinformation to demonize minorities by saying he saw Muslims celebrating in NJ? Or the classic line of being pro-white instead of anti-minority ? None of that is illegal but it doesn't mean it deserves a free open forum.
- kbart 10y ago"None of that is illegal but it doesn't mean it deserves a free open forum." Why not? If we silence them on few webpages, you think they simply will disappear? Trump as a president should be the wakeup call for everyone that forced, artificial politeness and political correctness won't make problems disappear.