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I'm very sympathetic to that viewpoint. I mulled over the idea of voting for a third party long and hard. I would have preferred Sanders, Stein, or Johnson ov

by zeroer 10y ago

I'm very sympathetic to that viewpoint. I mulled over the idea of voting for a third party long and hard. I would have preferred Sanders, Stein, or Johnson over Trump. In the end, I decided it was worth more to me to block Clinton. But don't pretend that it's an easy clear-cut decision to make.

eli_gottlieb 10y ago
I think that not voting for a fascist who staffs his administration with neo-Nazis is an easy, clear-cut decision for a leftist to take, even if you live in a swing state.
- zeroer 10y ago
  I appreciate and respect your opinion on this matter, though I don't happen to agree with it. I hope that this can be a lesson for leftists to take - that if you put up a poor enough candidate, you'll lose the votes of people like me. There should be consequences for the anti-democratic tactics the DNC used against Bernie. P.S. The state I voted in was close.
  - eli_gottlieb 10y ago
    > I appreciate and respect your opinion on this matter, though I don't happen to agree with it. I hope that this can be a lesson for leftists to take - that if you put up a poor enough candidate, you'll lose the votes of people like me. There should be consequences for the anti-democratic tactics the DNC used against Bernie. Again: I'm not saying you should have voted for Clinton. I agree that the anti-democratic strategies of the "Democratic" Party deserve punishment. I'm saying you could have voted for Jill Stein or Gary Johnson, who would have been, at least, not a fascist.
    - zeroer 10y ago
      Don't blame me. Blame the incentives created by first-past-the-post voting. Edit: Just to avoid confusion, by this I mean that though I would have been happier with Johnson or Stein in the White House, realistically either Clinton or Trump would win. Not voting for Clinton would have been good, but voting for Trump is a better way to ensure Clinton doesn't win, which was my primary drive.

by zeroer 10y ago

eli_gottlieb 10y ago

I think that not voting for a fascist who staffs his administration with neo-Nazis is an easy, clear-cut decision for a leftist to take, even if you live in a swing state.

zeroer 10y ago
I appreciate and respect your opinion on this matter, though I don't happen to agree with it. I hope that this can be a lesson for leftists to take - that if you put up a poor enough candidate, you'll lose the votes of people like me. There should be consequences for the anti-democratic tactics the DNC used against Bernie. P.S. The state I voted in was close.
- eli_gottlieb 10y ago
  > I appreciate and respect your opinion on this matter, though I don't happen to agree with it. I hope that this can be a lesson for leftists to take - that if you put up a poor enough candidate, you'll lose the votes of people like me. There should be consequences for the anti-democratic tactics the DNC used against Bernie. Again: I'm not saying you should have voted for Clinton. I agree that the anti-democratic strategies of the "Democratic" Party deserve punishment. I'm saying you could have voted for Jill Stein or Gary Johnson, who would have been, at least, not a fascist.
  - zeroer 10y ago
    Don't blame me. Blame the incentives created by first-past-the-post voting. Edit: Just to avoid confusion, by this I mean that though I would have been happier with Johnson or Stein in the White House, realistically either Clinton or Trump would win. Not voting for Clinton would have been good, but voting for Trump is a better way to ensure Clinton doesn't win, which was my primary drive.