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> Those with the "correct" political views can basically tell people to kill themselves That's just simply untrue. Hyperbole and lies don't help in these conve

> Those with the "correct" political views can basically tell people to kill themselves That's just simply untrue. Hyperbole and lies don't help in these conversations. (And I say this as someone who thinks that Facebook and Twitter have no place being arbiters of "truth"). Downvoted to -4 on HN for saying that Twitter doesn't allow liberals special privileges to threaten violence on Twitter. Gotta just love this place sometimes, and by love, I mean that it's full of shit.

Karunamon 10y ago
https://twitter.com/hipsterocracy/status/796353512208625666 https://twitter.com/hipsterocracy/status/796353512208625666 https://twitter.com/_g3orgia/status/796263284282454017 https://twitter.com/_g3orgia/status/796263284282454017 https://twitter.com/cervines/status/795679114673852416 https://twitter.com/cervines/status/795679114673852416 https://twitter.com/_mr_parker25/status/796521044492349440 https://twitter.com/_mr_parker25/status/796521044492349440 "If you voted third party in a swing state you should kill yourself." "Kill yourself" "Kill yourself. Honestly kill yourself. You wouldn't be missed" "To everyone who voted for trump as a joke kys. To everyone who voted for Harambe kys. To everyone who voted for Hennessy kys." 10 seconds with this search: https://twitter.com/search?q=kill%20yourself& https://twitter.com/search?q=kill%20yourself& or variations. Untrue, huh?
- colemickens 10y ago
  And the same thing from the other side is trivially easy to find too. Your comment implied that Twitter looks the other way, but only for liberals, and that claim is laughable at best and it's a trivial task to find counter-evidence. Besides, the first three pages of that search have zero tweets that involve someone telling someone else to kill themselves. They're all mock conversations, or memes, or literally a discussion of the fact that the punishment for attempted suicide is death. Or people encouraging others to call suicide hotlines, or a joke about killing yourself to get insurance money. I'm literally looking for a threatening tweet in that search and can't find one.
  - Karunamon 10y ago
    Am I to understand that suggesting Trump voters kill themselves is acceptable? Why haven't the posters of every single one of the above tweets I linked been banned? Yet we're only hearing about the "alt right" boogeyman.
    - colemickens 10y ago
      >Am I to understand that suggesting Trump voters kill themselves is acceptable? I have no idea how you would've come to that conclusion, I certainly don't think it and didn't imply it. Is this really the game we're playing? Really? I have to go find three tweets of Trump supporters telling HRC supporters to kill themselves? Do you really think that can't be trivially found?
      - Karunamon 10y ago
        "And to every black person that voted for Trump as a joke. Malcolm X should kick ur ass. You are not my nigga anymore. Kill yourself" https://twitter.com/h0elooks/status/796337658549202945 https://twitter.com/h0elooks/status/796337658549202945 "Please kill yourself racist piece of shit" (seconds ago as of time of writing) https://twitter.com/braaaaiiinnns/status/799113146602573825 https://twitter.com/braaaaiiinnns/status/799113146602573825 5-6, actually. Go ahead, I'll wait. Yes, I really think you can't find that, unless we're getting different search results for some reason. I'm not doing some cherry picking of the results here, these are literally the first tweets I can find where "kill yourself" is directed at a person or group and not obviously humorous. That last one came up in the search while I had the search open, even. I stand by my original statement and believe I've proven it.
        colemickens 10y ago
        This is the most asinine, childish conversation I've ever participated in, but here's what 50 seconds of effort got me: https://twitter.com/LK4Csjsharks20/status/795128062941675520 https://twitter.com/LK4Csjsharks20/status/795128062941675520 https://twitter.com/Sundance_44/status/794595588822155264 https://twitter.com/Sundance_44/status/794595588822155264 https://twitter.com/gr1zzly/status/794184499491782657 https://twitter.com/gr1zzly/status/794184499491782657 https://twitter.com/WYLTK13/status/798922065399070720 https://twitter.com/WYLTK13/status/798922065399070720 https://twitter.com/Wolf_Gang_Tears/status/798712379991330817 https://twitter.com/Wolf_Gang_Tears/status/79871237999133081... https://twitter.com/TonyTehTowel/status/797860571882389504 https://twitter.com/TonyTehTowel/status/797860571882389504 I won't replying in this thread again. Whatever point you're trying to make, you're doing a poor job of it.
- Mithaldu 10y ago
  There's one thing i'd like to point out to that. But first: Yes, such posts are abhorrent and unacceptable and come from people who're very childish, emotional and lack self control. That said, it helps to understand where this comes from. Many of these people (particularly the one responding to 2) feel that thanks to the policies of Trump and the people he surrounds himself with, they or their friends are being indirectly already being told to die. (LGBTQ, Obamacare recipients, others) I am not making excuses for these reprehensible tweets, but i feel it is valuable to understand where the causes for them lie.
  - Karunamon 10y ago
    Everybody using Twitter in this manner feels themselves to be correct. ..I'm not sure what distinction you're trying to make, or how it is useful for discussion. Irrationality that ends in violence is irrationality that ends in violence.
sctb 10y ago
We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12974189 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12974189 for being much more uncivil than what is called for on this site. We have to ask again that you not do this.
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Karunamon 10y ago

https://twitter.com/hipsterocracy/status/796353512208625666 https://twitter.com/hipsterocracy/status/796353512208625666 https://twitter.com/_g3orgia/status/796263284282454017 https://twitter.com/_g3orgia/status/796263284282454017 https://twitter.com/cervines/status/795679114673852416 https://twitter.com/cervines/status/795679114673852416 https://twitter.com/_mr_parker25/status/796521044492349440 https://twitter.com/_mr_parker25/status/796521044492349440 "If you voted third party in a swing state you should kill yourself." "Kill yourself" "Kill yourself. Honestly kill yourself. You wouldn't be missed" "To everyone who voted for trump as a joke kys. To everyone who voted for Harambe kys. To everyone who voted for Hennessy kys." 10 seconds with this search: https://twitter.com/search?q=kill%20yourself& https://twitter.com/search?q=kill%20yourself& or variations. Untrue, huh?

colemickens 10y ago
And the same thing from the other side is trivially easy to find too. Your comment implied that Twitter looks the other way, but only for liberals, and that claim is laughable at best and it's a trivial task to find counter-evidence. Besides, the first three pages of that search have zero tweets that involve someone telling someone else to kill themselves. They're all mock conversations, or memes, or literally a discussion of the fact that the punishment for attempted suicide is death. Or people encouraging others to call suicide hotlines, or a joke about killing yourself to get insurance money. I'm literally looking for a threatening tweet in that search and can't find one.
- Karunamon 10y ago
  Am I to understand that suggesting Trump voters kill themselves is acceptable? Why haven't the posters of every single one of the above tweets I linked been banned? Yet we're only hearing about the "alt right" boogeyman.
  - colemickens 10y ago
    >Am I to understand that suggesting Trump voters kill themselves is acceptable? I have no idea how you would've come to that conclusion, I certainly don't think it and didn't imply it. Is this really the game we're playing? Really? I have to go find three tweets of Trump supporters telling HRC supporters to kill themselves? Do you really think that can't be trivially found?
    - Karunamon 10y ago
      "And to every black person that voted for Trump as a joke. Malcolm X should kick ur ass. You are not my nigga anymore. Kill yourself" https://twitter.com/h0elooks/status/796337658549202945 https://twitter.com/h0elooks/status/796337658549202945 "Please kill yourself racist piece of shit" (seconds ago as of time of writing) https://twitter.com/braaaaiiinnns/status/799113146602573825 https://twitter.com/braaaaiiinnns/status/799113146602573825 5-6, actually. Go ahead, I'll wait. Yes, I really think you can't find that, unless we're getting different search results for some reason. I'm not doing some cherry picking of the results here, these are literally the first tweets I can find where "kill yourself" is directed at a person or group and not obviously humorous. That last one came up in the search while I had the search open, even. I stand by my original statement and believe I've proven it.
      - colemickens 10y ago
        This is the most asinine, childish conversation I've ever participated in, but here's what 50 seconds of effort got me: https://twitter.com/LK4Csjsharks20/status/795128062941675520 https://twitter.com/LK4Csjsharks20/status/795128062941675520 https://twitter.com/Sundance_44/status/794595588822155264 https://twitter.com/Sundance_44/status/794595588822155264 https://twitter.com/gr1zzly/status/794184499491782657 https://twitter.com/gr1zzly/status/794184499491782657 https://twitter.com/WYLTK13/status/798922065399070720 https://twitter.com/WYLTK13/status/798922065399070720 https://twitter.com/Wolf_Gang_Tears/status/798712379991330817 https://twitter.com/Wolf_Gang_Tears/status/79871237999133081... https://twitter.com/TonyTehTowel/status/797860571882389504 https://twitter.com/TonyTehTowel/status/797860571882389504 I won't replying in this thread again. Whatever point you're trying to make, you're doing a poor job of it.
Mithaldu 10y ago
There's one thing i'd like to point out to that. But first: Yes, such posts are abhorrent and unacceptable and come from people who're very childish, emotional and lack self control. That said, it helps to understand where this comes from. Many of these people (particularly the one responding to 2) feel that thanks to the policies of Trump and the people he surrounds himself with, they or their friends are being indirectly already being told to die. (LGBTQ, Obamacare recipients, others) I am not making excuses for these reprehensible tweets, but i feel it is valuable to understand where the causes for them lie.
- Karunamon 10y ago
  Everybody using Twitter in this manner feels themselves to be correct. ..I'm not sure what distinction you're trying to make, or how it is useful for discussion. Irrationality that ends in violence is irrationality that ends in violence.

sctb 10y ago

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12974189 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12974189 for being much more uncivil than what is called for on this site. We have to ask again that you not do this.

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