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The Spy Who Added Me on LinkedIn
- _ao789 10y agoTldr; someone?
- dsymonds 10y agoIt's about Russian spies working on Wall Street, and them being busted by the FBI. Nothing to do with LinkedIn as far as I can see.
- nxc18 10y agoIts a play on the 'The Spy Who ___ Me' title meme. I thought it was very fun and did a good job communicating how mundane the lives of the spies really were, which appeared to be a thesis or at least supporting point of the article. Tl;dr: Russian spy brought bug into secure facility, revealed other spies. FBI deals with it.
- brak1 10y agoNot sure why LinkedIn is even mentioned... a quick search on the whole page (ignoring the title/post categories) is just this one sentence... > By day, Buryakov lived the ordinary life of a Wall Street analyst: reading and writing reports; attending meetings, conferences, and parties; building connections on LinkedIn. But its an interesting read, even with the weird title...
- duaneb 10y agoThe title is alluding to James Bond. Poorly.
- wavefunction 10y agoI don't know. You caught the reference. Seems like it worked.
- duaneb 10y agoThat I was able to work out the intention of a sentence does not mean the sentence should have existed in the first place. It's already used up more of my time than any actual content—why didn't they use a descriptive title?
- mcbits 10y agoRed scare material packaged as a human interest story, now with a Democratic slant to adjust to a new Republican who is reportedly chummy with Russians. It's funny how they always say the KGB/SVR is the counterpart to the the CIA but never describe the CIA as the counterpart to the KGB/SVR.
- grzm 10y ago"It's funny how they always say the KGB/SVR is the counterpart to the the CIA but never describe the CIA as the counterpart to the KGB/SVR." Is this a reference to "the SVR, Moscow’s version of the CIA"? Don't you usually use the construction "X is the counterpart to Y" when Y is the more familiar to the intended audience? I don't see anything sinister here, at least in this grammar construction.
- mcbits 10y agoIt was in reference to that, in the context of the larger body of text that has been written about intelligence services. Even when the CIA is the subject, I don't think I've ever seen them presented as America's version of [other country's intelligence service] (especially not the bad guys). But the other direction has been so common over the years that it's begun to stand out when I see it.
- grzm 10y agoLike I said, to an English-speaking (arguably American, as Bloomberg is based in Manhattan) audience, it makes little sense to phrase it the other way. You compare the unknown with the known, not the other way around. Compare: "Pachinko, the Japanese version of a slot machine." "A slot machine, the American version of pachinko." Which version is intended for an American audience? Which for an audience familiar with Japan? There's nothing nefarious here. If that stands out to you, I think you may be looking too hard for bias to the point where you're seeing things that aren't there. Keeping an eye out for bias is a good thing. It can be sometimes difficult to keep it calibrated. Anyway, this is getting off-topic. I'm done.
- sverige 10y agoThe tl;drs miss the hilarious assertion that Russia is somehow responsible for the outcome of the election. Nevermind Assange's denials. "The espionage story of the year, and perhaps one of the greatest foreign operations in decades, has undoubtedly been Russia’s successful effort to influence this fall’s presidential election through hacking—penetrating Democratic National Committee servers and the e-mail account of John Podesta, Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman."
- mejari 10y agoSaying that it influenced the election isn't the same as saying that it is solely responsible for the outcome, don't be disingenuous.
- techthroway443 10y agoThen maybe the author would do well not to frame it as such by avoiding lines like "one of the greatest foreign operations in decades"
- mejari 10y agoWhy? Not unilaterally deciding the US presidential election isn't mutually exclusive with "one of the greatest foreign operations in decades". I might disagree with their assessment, but Russia did influence the election and someone could at least attempt the argument that it was "one of the greatest foreign operations in decades"
- alasdair_ 10y agoTo be fair, cosmic rays also influenced the election. The degree of influence is unknown however.
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- revelation 10y agoI love how a weak assertion made by the DNC to deflect attention away from the actual email content has now been silently elevated into a "fact" mindlessly parroted like here.
- tedmiston 10y agoBlatantly off topic from the article but related to social network spies, and because this community takes privacy concerns seriously — anyone who joins your neighborhood on Nextdoor can immediately see your full address (apartment number included) with the default privacy settings. Also, it's possible to join a neighborhood with no verification if just one bad actor is in it and invites you. I think it's an absolutely absurd setting. I've clicked through many people in my neighborhood and get the feeling most people don't realize the exposure at all.
- gumby 10y agoThanks, I had not realized that! Fortunately I registered under a fake address, but still, didn't want that published either.
- tedmiston 10y agoExactly the same case for myself. It was up for over a year before I realized too.
- mistermann 10y agoHow are there still no federal regulations on default privacy settings in 2016?
- acqq 10y agoHas anybody managed to extract what was actually "spy" worthy that the guy did? "Asked people for information" isn't saying anything. What do I miss? What were the secrets?
- foota 10y agoSounds like they were particularly after information private to businesses, since that is a large part of American interests.
- tedmiston 10y ago> On May 24, 2016, Buryakov was sentenced to 30 months in prison, and he now resides in the federal low-security prison in rural Lisbon, Ohio. Sentenced to just 30 months in a low-security prison... must not have been too severe.
- gragas 10y agoThe article said he was charged with being an "unregistered foreign agent".
- secfirstmd 10y agoAnyone else feel that if the Russians really wanted to influence the election, the actual methodologies used and people targeted were not that impressive or well thought through? I mean it was hardly Stuxnet. If your wanna change an election why not hack a wider range of targets? I know that "Who gains most?" is one of the best ways to attribute blame in the intelligence world but I have not (like the North Korea / Sony hack) seen evidence that even nearly proves it was a hack directed by the Russian Government. Possibly a malicious sympathiser but hardly state level techniques... Also, how slow and useless are the NSA that they weren't watching to protect senior people in one of the two major parties in the country? If so many intelligence folks are as sure as they claim to be that it's the Russians, where is the counter-response? You mean to tell me that the TAO can't do better then some leaks about Russian businessmen close to Putin - obviously that is one of his weak points but he doesn't care about that right now. I get that they don't want to reveal warfighting capabilities but seriously - if you think it's really the Russians, throw a shoulder...
- drawnwren 10y agoEspecially given the pre-election polling predictions, I have to think the risk vs reward would've been very low for Russia. Trump may not want to think of them as the enemy, but even an 'anti-Russian' administration allowed them to march into Crimea and bomb Syria uncontested.
- secfirstmd 10y agoYeah, plus I think while Trump (can't believe I'm saying anything positive about the guy) might actually be good for resetting relations with Russia, might reduce their paranoia etc - Russians tend to prefer opponents/friends who have predictable stability, and he certainly is not that. I feel a sensible Russian policy would have preferred the devil-we-know of Clinton. I have nothing but disgust for Putin and his henchmen but at the same time I think there is a lot of value in reading/watching his full speeches directly. There is a lot of poor reporting these days in our Western media and it easier to make better predictions about his frame of mind by seeing exactly what he is saying - then monitor his actions. Many of the direct translations of his speeches about Trump are different from what has been reported. The Russians feel surrounded (by NATO expansion), by NATO intrusions of jets, submarines, Ukraine government change and they also feel humiliated from the 90s, Kosovo, Iraq etc etc. It's important that more people make a real effort to understand and internalise that understanding of Russian fears if we are to avoid a full on renewal of the Cold War...I severely doubt the Trump Administration has people who will be happy to walk back and reset things.
- rdtsc 10y agoThis is a good story, well written. I remember the previous case with the sleeper agents. The one theme I see is waste. Seems like such a wasteful way to do things -- spend decades planning and setting everything up and then they go and just ask companies for random info. Or during the Soviet times I like how they sent this spy to acquire info on the Space Shuttle, so he went to a public library and photo-copied stuff from there. Years of training and all that setup to go and press the "copy" button in a library. The timing of the story is not a coincidence I am guessing. They mentioned the "election" so I am assuming it is playing along with the Russians have rigged the election and KGB agents are everywhere. And that's why Clinton's campaign resulted in worse Democratic election performance in 28 years. I don't know about anyone else, I but I am getting a little tired of blaming the Russians for everything. Wonder if editors would agree that we should be a lot stricter with our immigration policy and vet people better before letting them come in...
- thewhitetulip 10y agoyears of training and all they do is press the copy button :-D that is a funny take at their life. they do have to live in "enemy" territory as a double life, living that itself would account their intensive training!
- spoiler 10y agoI'm missing something, but what would be so difficult about living in enemy territory? I don't believe anyone in their daily interaction was hostile to them (apart from exceptions who would be hostile to anyone).
- thewhitetulip 10y agoas far as I have read from spy novels: There is a constant fear of being caught. He was an illegal foreign operative in "enemy" territory. they were having his handler under surveillance for many years. I assume it to be highly stressful, living a double life, the constant fear of being caught and thrown into prison or worse, fear of being killed one day. Just being a spy does not mean that everyone is hostile to them, the article itself says, counter intelligence != catch then really fast, it means identify them and feed them incorrect intelligence, that way you control what your "enemy" gets from their operative, it is way cheaper that way rather than busting the spy rings. Also, this guy went too far, taking something given by foreigners into their secret office! That is ludicrous even by fictional standards(Jason Bourne novels). The mind plays games!
- vostok 10y agoMy favorite part of this is that rewards for spying seems to be a $3k per month house in the Bronx. Sounds like you're better off working for Facebook.
- gragas 10y agoI don't think most spies are in it for the money. I can pretty much guarantee that FBI/CIA/NSA salaries are all lower than those of the top tech companies.
- vostok 10y agoI would really like to see some hard numbers. I know the salaries are public, but I wonder if there are bonuses that aren't included and benefits such as housing/car/food/etc. I'm sure some are contractors rather than employees. I wonder how much they make.
- gragas 10y agoI'd like to know as well. I do know that the FBI has really nice pensions, but like you said, that information is public.
- oarsinsync 10y agoI once saw an advert for a job in British Intelligence that was offering £45k PA. Comparative jobs in financial services were paying £75-£120k. Base salaries, doesn't include bonuses, benefits, etc.
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- thewhitetulip 10y agoI started reading the article, in the middle it said "this is how they linked the DNC hacking to Russians" and I finished the article and there was no revelation at all, did I read it incorrectly? Or is the article misleading?
- madaxe_again 10y agoI'm raising an eyebrow at the existence of the article, to be honest - I'm not proposing that suppression of information would be a good thing, rather that perhaps this is being published with a purpose. There was a case earlier this year involving a pair of brits caught red handed spying in Russia - it made international news for a day, and that was it. Both were repatriated, and the matter didn't go any further in the public eye. So - what I'm getting at - Russia declined a deal, and this lengthy exposé going into methods and so-forth is the fallout. In the instance earlier this year, Britain and Russia evidently played ball. So, while it's perfectly valid journalism, I think there's also a bit of "throw 'em to the lions".
- rms_returns 10y agoAnyone watched the movie, Salt?
- salimmadjd 10y agoWritten by Howard Dean's former staffer [1]. This article smells like DNC propaganda. Firstly, this is an old story. The heart of the news is about 2 years old [2] and it's Graff's first article for bloomberg [3] though he has been writing for Wire and Politico (his former paper) Secondly, the author is exploring political career of his own in Vermont [4] and it's very possible his Politico article (that changed the blame to lack of technology skills by Hillary) [5] and this article are meant to curry favor for DNC players as he is making his own political bids. Lastly, the author makes conclusion the hacks were done by Russians, perhaps one of the greatest foreign operations in decades, has undoubtedly been Russia’s successful effort to influence this fall’s presidential election through hacking however as others pointed out there is no clear evidence of this. Overall, this shows the sophisticated state of political propaganda in US and how it operates to shape the minds of the readers. We're in for a bumpy ride. (edited for formatting) [1] https://www.linkedin.com/in/gagraff https://www.linkedin.com/in/gagraff [2] https://www.ft.com/content/315343d2-a59d-11e4-ad35-00144feab7de https://www.ft.com/content/315343d2-a59d-11e4-ad35-00144feab... [3] http://www.bloomberg.com/authors/ATEO_DMrDvA/garrett-m-graff http://www.bloomberg.com/authors/ATEO_DMrDvA/garrett-m-graff [4] http://m.sevendaysvt.com/OffMessage/archives/2015/11/06/garrett-graff-exploring-run-for-lieutenant-governor-of-vermont http://m.sevendaysvt.com/OffMessage/archives/2015/11/06/garr... [5] http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-emails-2016-server-state-department-fbi-214307 http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/hillary-clint...