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It's only ever going to work for gmail users. For people who read their email in text-only clients this will never do anything. You know, people who use seriou

by zlynx 10y ago

It's only ever going to work for gmail users. For people who read their email in text-only clients this will never do anything. You know, people who use serious email, not to send pictures of balloons and 96-pt Happy Birthday in pink on purple text.

groby_b 10y ago
That of course assumes that "serious" e-mail happens only in text-only clients. Meanwhile, my work e-mail account is fairly busy, pretty much all HTML, and I haven't seen balloons, 96-pt text, or purple background. (I do occasionally send pink text, though. I'm that person) And all of these markup items are highly welcome. I'd rather live in the 21st century. (Although I would kill for procmail, but we can't win them all)
icebraining 10y ago
It's only ever going to work for gmail users. For people who read their email in text-only clients this will never do anything. Why not? If anything, this should been a boon for us text-only client users, since the metadata is structured in a format that can be easily parsed and displayed in an appropriate way, instead of having to deal with HTML conversions. Having a key shortcut on Alpine to activate the main email action, instead of having to cycle over the various links, sounds great to me.
- simias 10y ago
  I completely agree. Having a more semantic structure rather than "anything goes" HTML can only be a good thing for the state of emailing in 2016. Many high profile websites don't even bother sending a text/plain alternative with their emails anymore and the HTML is often cryptic when viewed from a text browser. Anything that can improve this is a good thing. I do have a minor beef with this implementation however: at first I assumed that this metadata would be stored in custom email header (X-Mail-Action or whatever) but as far as I understand it's embedded in the HTML instead. It would make it more painful to add support for that to existing clients, especially if they use external tools to display HTML.
matt4077 10y ago
It's great to see that there aren't just "serious" notebook users ("this may be great for digital artists, or journalists or teachers but I'm a /serious/ professional and that's why I hate Apple"). Now there's "Serious" email, and if you don't read your email on the cli, you're just an amateur easily impressed by shiny toys. Can't make this stuff up... Or, you know, that structured data and semantic markup are excellent for any number of "advanced" uses.

by zlynx 10y ago

groby_b 10y ago

That of course assumes that "serious" e-mail happens only in text-only clients. Meanwhile, my work e-mail account is fairly busy, pretty much all HTML, and I haven't seen balloons, 96-pt text, or purple background. (I do occasionally send pink text, though. I'm that person) And all of these markup items are highly welcome. I'd rather live in the 21st century. (Although I would kill for procmail, but we can't win them all)

icebraining 10y ago

It's only ever going to work for gmail users. For people who read their email in text-only clients this will never do anything. Why not? If anything, this should been a boon for us text-only client users, since the metadata is structured in a format that can be easily parsed and displayed in an appropriate way, instead of having to deal with HTML conversions. Having a key shortcut on Alpine to activate the main email action, instead of having to cycle over the various links, sounds great to me.

simias 10y ago
I completely agree. Having a more semantic structure rather than "anything goes" HTML can only be a good thing for the state of emailing in 2016. Many high profile websites don't even bother sending a text/plain alternative with their emails anymore and the HTML is often cryptic when viewed from a text browser. Anything that can improve this is a good thing. I do have a minor beef with this implementation however: at first I assumed that this metadata would be stored in custom email header (X-Mail-Action or whatever) but as far as I understand it's embedded in the HTML instead. It would make it more painful to add support for that to existing clients, especially if they use external tools to display HTML.

matt4077 10y ago

It's great to see that there aren't just "serious" notebook users ("this may be great for digital artists, or journalists or teachers but I'm a /serious/ professional and that's why I hate Apple"). Now there's "Serious" email, and if you don't read your email on the cli, you're just an amateur easily impressed by shiny toys. Can't make this stuff up... Or, you know, that structured data and semantic markup are excellent for any number of "advanced" uses.