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Same question. What advantages does C# the language have vs Java the language? Do people perceive Java as playing "catch up" with other languages? e: I only as

by skizm 10y ago

Same question. What advantages does C# the language have vs Java the language? Do people perceive Java as playing "catch up" with other languages? e: I only ask because I've always heard the opposite.

Analemma_ 10y ago
I'm not sure where you would've heard the opposite. "Java the ecosystem" has clear advantages over "C# the ecosystem", but I've never heard anyone claim that Java is a better language. Things C# has that Java got years later or not at all include lambdas, LINQ, value types, reified generics, and async/await.
on_and_off 10y ago
Pretty much everything that is in kotlin should have been in java for a while IMO and some of these features are in C#
- rubber_duck 10y ago
  Kotlin fixes some of Java issues but it still can't fix JVM design decisions such as lack of value types (coming to JVM in what 5 years from now ?) and messy native interop. Java has some really fancy JIT compilers designed for servers but .NET is much more AoT/native interop friendly with value types and reified generics, you can get a lot closer to C++ like code with C# than with Java (avoiding GC with structs, controlling memory layouts in collections, etc.)
serge2k 10y ago
I prefer LINQ and C# lambdas to Java 8, but beyond that. Type inference, properties, extension methods, operator overloading, p/invoke vs JNI (plus C# has better unsafe code support), structs, reified generics, async/await
shanxS 10y ago
Well imho C# is bit more mature than Java. I am talking strictly in terms of "in-built" language features. For example, apart from LINQ, generics in C# dont do type erasure, as in Java. I am sure there are few more. [1] Of course, Java running on so many platforms is nothing less than a miracle but I am of opinion that C# language is more matured than Java language [1] https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms836794.aspx https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms836794.aspx

by skizm 10y ago

Analemma_ 10y ago

I'm not sure where you would've heard the opposite. "Java the ecosystem" has clear advantages over "C# the ecosystem", but I've never heard anyone claim that Java is a better language. Things C# has that Java got years later or not at all include lambdas, LINQ, value types, reified generics, and async/await.

on_and_off 10y ago

Pretty much everything that is in kotlin should have been in java for a while IMO and some of these features are in C#

rubber_duck 10y ago
Kotlin fixes some of Java issues but it still can't fix JVM design decisions such as lack of value types (coming to JVM in what 5 years from now ?) and messy native interop. Java has some really fancy JIT compilers designed for servers but .NET is much more AoT/native interop friendly with value types and reified generics, you can get a lot closer to C++ like code with C# than with Java (avoiding GC with structs, controlling memory layouts in collections, etc.)

serge2k 10y ago

I prefer LINQ and C# lambdas to Java 8, but beyond that. Type inference, properties, extension methods, operator overloading, p/invoke vs JNI (plus C# has better unsafe code support), structs, reified generics, async/await

shanxS 10y ago

Well imho C# is bit more mature than Java. I am talking strictly in terms of "in-built" language features. For example, apart from LINQ, generics in C# dont do type erasure, as in Java. I am sure there are few more. [1] Of course, Java running on so many platforms is nothing less than a miracle but I am of opinion that C# language is more matured than Java language [1] https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms836794.aspx https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms836794.aspx