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I'll never use rust for anything important. Too dangerous, unstable, badly organized, toxic development community, the list goes on.

shmerl 10y ago
Huh? Did you mix it up with something else? Rust community is one of the best. And what's "dangerous and unstable" there?
- cryptrash 10y ago
  Of course I didnt. Klabnik is practically a communist, lots of anti-American sentiments, etc. Pcwalton has been spamming HN for ages about rust. They're all terrible. I've heard rumors of memory vulns in rust as well.
  - steveklabnik 10y ago
    I make it a strong point to keep my personal politics outside of Rust; there's actually many people who work within Rust and its community that I would fight bitterly with about politics, but we instead focus on the technology and work together in a productive manner. If you see me acting inappropriate within Rust project spaces, please report me to the moderation team: the core team is subject to moderation just like anyone else,and no core team members are allowed to be part of moderation for exactly that reason. > I've heard rumors of memory vulns in rust as well. Please report these to https://www.rust-lang.org/security.html https://www.rust-lang.org/security.html, as we care deeply about fixing them, if any. Otherwise, that's just FUD.
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  - yedpodtrzitko 10y ago
    > I've heard rumors of memory vulns in rust as well. I guess you did read it on the internet, so it has to be truth. Are you referring to that clickbait "Heartbleed in Rust"?
  - sctb 10y ago
    We've asked you specifically not to do this, so we've banned this account.
    - cpeterso 10y ago
      Does HN no longer hellban accounts?
      - sctb 10y ago
        We'll quietly ban serial trolls or outright spammers, but otherwise we provide an explanation so that the community can benefit from observing the application of the guidelines. We have other tools for dealing with accounts created as a result of the apparent ban.
- noir_lord 10y ago
  Check his comment history and draw your own conclusions ;).
  - gbersac 10y ago
    First time I saw someone with negative karma.
TazeTSchnitzel 10y ago
Toxic?
allengeorge 10y ago
Of all the invectives to level at Rust, "toxic development community" would be the least applicable. Frankly, I've found the Rust community super welcoming and willing to answer questions from a newbie. As for the rest of your points - I don't think they're applicable as well. I've found Rust to be super solid and the ecosystem a pleasure to work with. Could you give examples to support your claim?
chamakits 10y ago
A lot of your attacks seemed to be aimed at personal beliefs of some of the rust developers. I follow some on twitter and they may have some views people disagree with, but nothing exceedingly controversial. Furthermore, all other criticisms you've mentioned specifically towards rust and the community of rust are literal opposites of everything I've experienced. The community is friendly and helpful. Rust is extremely stable, both as code, and as far as the developers making sure to not break backwards compatibility, going as far as testing EVERY PROJECT available in crates.io for regressions. They are also extremely organized, having all discussions in well thought out and documented RFCs,and allowing all to give input on it all. I don't know what problems you have with Rust. I'm sure there valid things to critize. But everything you mentioned is categorically false. If you disagree, I'd be open to see proof of it all.
colemickens 10y ago
I've had nothing but amazing experiences in the Rust community, and was actually proud/embarrassed the one time that I was chastised for being rude in /r/rust. The Rust community reminds me of how welcoming the Go community used to be... (I love Go and write it every day, this isn't some sort of commentary about Go).

shmerl 10y ago

Huh? Did you mix it up with something else? Rust community is one of the best. And what's "dangerous and unstable" there?

cryptrash 10y ago
Of course I didnt. Klabnik is practically a communist, lots of anti-American sentiments, etc. Pcwalton has been spamming HN for ages about rust. They're all terrible. I've heard rumors of memory vulns in rust as well.
- steveklabnik 10y ago
  I make it a strong point to keep my personal politics outside of Rust; there's actually many people who work within Rust and its community that I would fight bitterly with about politics, but we instead focus on the technology and work together in a productive manner. If you see me acting inappropriate within Rust project spaces, please report me to the moderation team: the core team is subject to moderation just like anyone else,and no core team members are allowed to be part of moderation for exactly that reason. > I've heard rumors of memory vulns in rust as well. Please report these to https://www.rust-lang.org/security.html https://www.rust-lang.org/security.html, as we care deeply about fixing them, if any. Otherwise, that's just FUD.
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- yedpodtrzitko 10y ago
  > I've heard rumors of memory vulns in rust as well. I guess you did read it on the internet, so it has to be truth. Are you referring to that clickbait "Heartbleed in Rust"?
- sctb 10y ago
  We've asked you specifically not to do this, so we've banned this account.
  - cpeterso 10y ago
    Does HN no longer hellban accounts?
    - sctb 10y ago
      We'll quietly ban serial trolls or outright spammers, but otherwise we provide an explanation so that the community can benefit from observing the application of the guidelines. We have other tools for dealing with accounts created as a result of the apparent ban.
noir_lord 10y ago
Check his comment history and draw your own conclusions ;).
- gbersac 10y ago
  First time I saw someone with negative karma.

TazeTSchnitzel 10y ago

Toxic?

allengeorge 10y ago

Of all the invectives to level at Rust, "toxic development community" would be the least applicable. Frankly, I've found the Rust community super welcoming and willing to answer questions from a newbie. As for the rest of your points - I don't think they're applicable as well. I've found Rust to be super solid and the ecosystem a pleasure to work with. Could you give examples to support your claim?

chamakits 10y ago

A lot of your attacks seemed to be aimed at personal beliefs of some of the rust developers. I follow some on twitter and they may have some views people disagree with, but nothing exceedingly controversial. Furthermore, all other criticisms you've mentioned specifically towards rust and the community of rust are literal opposites of everything I've experienced. The community is friendly and helpful. Rust is extremely stable, both as code, and as far as the developers making sure to not break backwards compatibility, going as far as testing EVERY PROJECT available in crates.io for regressions. They are also extremely organized, having all discussions in well thought out and documented RFCs,and allowing all to give input on it all. I don't know what problems you have with Rust. I'm sure there valid things to critize. But everything you mentioned is categorically false. If you disagree, I'd be open to see proof of it all.

colemickens 10y ago

I've had nothing but amazing experiences in the Rust community, and was actually proud/embarrassed the one time that I was chastised for being rude in /r/rust. The Rust community reminds me of how welcoming the Go community used to be... (I love Go and write it every day, this isn't some sort of commentary about Go).