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Half of HN front page today is Microsoft, .NET, Visual Studio, Connect.

by 0xmohit 10y ago

arenaninja 10y ago
Lots of news coming out of Microsoft's Connect event. C# is a great language, .NET Core makes it available cross-platform, and now the tooling is being announced (whether it's on par with what's available on Windows is TBD)
- hnrodey 10y ago
  IMO The ecosystem of tools on Windows for C#/.NET is what makes it special stack. Resharper and LinqPad are two notable tools that I consider vital to my everyday workflow that just simply don't exist for macOS. At home I use macOS primarily and I'm trying to ramp up on .NET Core for a few personal projects and I'm having a tough time trying to find a suitable dev environment that provides me with the same speed/comfort that I get on a Windows machine and so far it's tough. Project Rider on macOS is coming along nicely but that still leaves no LINQPad which is super handy for working on small bits of code with near instant results. The feedback loop is so short when using Linqpad it's insane.
  - mattmanser 10y ago
    You haven't needed linqpad since vs 2015, which has a C# repl in it. I also don't get the point of resharper. Apart from being slow as molasses, it's ridiculously over opinionated to the point where is makes existing code a mess of squiggles. And it's intellisense is super dumb as it redlines while you're still typing, which is very distracting. The only great part of it, the quick find, is now in vs 2015. Ctrl-,. I think it literally just came in with the last patch.
    - hnrodey 10y ago
      I wasn't aware of the enhancement in VS2015. I'll definitely look at that functionality. VS2015 has made up a lot of ground for what R# lacked but the static analysis still isn't there. You have to learn what errors/notes mean and how to interpret the results because they are very meaningful. Point blank - writing code with Resharper will lead to higher quality code. And yeah, some part of my Resharper love is just an old habit. I've been using R# since VS2005 when the IDE lacked a lot of critical features that R# plugged. Now a lot of it is just habits and keyboard shortcuts and it's only a few hundred dollars for a license which still pays for itself throughout the course of the year.
      - mattmanser 10y ago
        I simply disagree about higher quality code. One of my junior colleagues once did a "let's apply a bunch of resharper recommendations". It was not pretty. Its suggestions are almost always pedantic and puerile that don't improve code quality in any meaningful way, at least in the out-of-the-box config. It's nice when it picks up some stupidity like an always false condition, but the out-of-the-box instance has so many stupid rules that after turning more and more off it off, I gave up on it. And this isn't the first time I've given it a go.
  - jombiezebus 10y ago
    For working on small bits of code with quick results, https://dotnetfiddle.net/ https://dotnetfiddle.net/ is a great online solution.
UK-AL 10y ago
It's their developer event today.
WayneBro 10y ago
I'm a Windows guy. I love Windows, but I wasn't even going to read any of these because I don't use .net core and I don't use .net on Linux at all. If I build something cross platform it's with node or electron python, etc. However after reading the top comment on this post, about how ASP.net core is one of the fastest performers, that may have all changed. I might actually look at .net core now.
baq 10y ago
is this bad, good, neutral? i personally love it.
roryisok 10y ago
I counted 12 out of 30 links just now, seems like MS PR is in overdrive right now
- tracker1 10y ago
  It happens for any major developer conference... same things happen with google and amazon at their confs.
bargl 10y ago
Yeah and I've noticed any day a lot of tech releases this happens, whether it is google, apple, microsoft, etc.
komali2 10y ago
Other threads are accusing astroturfing. I don't want to start a witchhunt, but looking at the user accounts, we've got one that has a nearly 2 year gap between their last comment and this week when they started posting, an account 1 day old, another account with a huge commenting gap to date, and a fairly normal looking account. I guess it's up to the community whether they care someone was paid to submit the article they're reading and commenting on. It's not like we haven't been having interesting discussions, and one way or another these things would have made it to the front page of HN considering the connect() event is today.
- program_monkey 10y ago
  Other threads are accusing astroturfing There seems to be little question that Microsoft has targeted HN. The other morning I saw a banal MS post go up at 4am Eastern Time and amass almost 500 upvotes in half an hour. I seldom see truly cross-cutting, interesting stories see that rate during prime time.

Half of HN front page today is Microsoft, .NET, Visual Studio, Connect.

by 0xmohit 10y ago

Half of HN front page today is Microsoft, .NET, Visual Studio, Connect.

Lots of news coming out of Microsoft's Connect event. C# is a great language, .NET Core makes it available cross-platform, and now the tooling is being announced (whether it's on par with what's available on Windows is TBD)

hnrodey 10y ago
IMO The ecosystem of tools on Windows for C#/.NET is what makes it special stack. Resharper and LinqPad are two notable tools that I consider vital to my everyday workflow that just simply don't exist for macOS. At home I use macOS primarily and I'm trying to ramp up on .NET Core for a few personal projects and I'm having a tough time trying to find a suitable dev environment that provides me with the same speed/comfort that I get on a Windows machine and so far it's tough. Project Rider on macOS is coming along nicely but that still leaves no LINQPad which is super handy for working on small bits of code with near instant results. The feedback loop is so short when using Linqpad it's insane.
- mattmanser 10y ago
  You haven't needed linqpad since vs 2015, which has a C# repl in it. I also don't get the point of resharper. Apart from being slow as molasses, it's ridiculously over opinionated to the point where is makes existing code a mess of squiggles. And it's intellisense is super dumb as it redlines while you're still typing, which is very distracting. The only great part of it, the quick find, is now in vs 2015. Ctrl-,. I think it literally just came in with the last patch.
  - hnrodey 10y ago
    I wasn't aware of the enhancement in VS2015. I'll definitely look at that functionality. VS2015 has made up a lot of ground for what R# lacked but the static analysis still isn't there. You have to learn what errors/notes mean and how to interpret the results because they are very meaningful. Point blank - writing code with Resharper will lead to higher quality code. And yeah, some part of my Resharper love is just an old habit. I've been using R# since VS2005 when the IDE lacked a lot of critical features that R# plugged. Now a lot of it is just habits and keyboard shortcuts and it's only a few hundred dollars for a license which still pays for itself throughout the course of the year.
    - mattmanser 10y ago
      I simply disagree about higher quality code. One of my junior colleagues once did a "let's apply a bunch of resharper recommendations". It was not pretty. Its suggestions are almost always pedantic and puerile that don't improve code quality in any meaningful way, at least in the out-of-the-box config. It's nice when it picks up some stupidity like an always false condition, but the out-of-the-box instance has so many stupid rules that after turning more and more off it off, I gave up on it. And this isn't the first time I've given it a go.
- jombiezebus 10y ago
  For working on small bits of code with quick results, https://dotnetfiddle.net/ https://dotnetfiddle.net/ is a great online solution.

UK-AL 10y ago

It's their developer event today.

WayneBro 10y ago

I'm a Windows guy. I love Windows, but I wasn't even going to read any of these because I don't use .net core and I don't use .net on Linux at all. If I build something cross platform it's with node or electron python, etc. However after reading the top comment on this post, about how ASP.net core is one of the fastest performers, that may have all changed. I might actually look at .net core now.

baq 10y ago

is this bad, good, neutral? i personally love it.

roryisok 10y ago

I counted 12 out of 30 links just now, seems like MS PR is in overdrive right now

tracker1 10y ago
It happens for any major developer conference... same things happen with google and amazon at their confs.

bargl 10y ago

Yeah and I've noticed any day a lot of tech releases this happens, whether it is google, apple, microsoft, etc.

komali2 10y ago

Other threads are accusing astroturfing. I don't want to start a witchhunt, but looking at the user accounts, we've got one that has a nearly 2 year gap between their last comment and this week when they started posting, an account 1 day old, another account with a huge commenting gap to date, and a fairly normal looking account. I guess it's up to the community whether they care someone was paid to submit the article they're reading and commenting on. It's not like we haven't been having interesting discussions, and one way or another these things would have made it to the front page of HN considering the connect() event is today.

program_monkey 10y ago
Other threads are accusing astroturfing There seems to be little question that Microsoft has targeted HN. The other morning I saw a banal MS post go up at 4am Eastern Time and amass almost 500 upvotes in half an hour. I seldom see truly cross-cutting, interesting stories see that rate during prime time.