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You know when you're talking to a Trump supporter when they think that a preference for facts over lies amounts to a "close adherence to progressive extremist i

You know when you're talking to a Trump supporter when they think that a preference for facts over lies amounts to a "close adherence to progressive extremist ideology". What a load of bullshit.

james0001 10y ago
You know you're talking to a person with "close adherence to progressive extremist ideology" when they assume the facts are on their side and the other side is just lies. Real scientific integrity eh?
- taeric 10y ago
  My personal backlash against this is from experience. I have been wrong. I will be wrong more in the future. Ignorance is normal. Nobody knows everything. However, ignorance is not to be embraced. Fact checking is not a liberal agenda. It is a general path to improvement.
- yolesaber 10y ago
  Yes, because only progressive extremists believe the facts are on their side. Say that out loud again, it sounds ridiculous.
  - james0001 10y ago
    They have a greater tendency to do so, yes. Probably stems from the implicit assumption that since academia leans left, that these progressives will have the needed scientific support for their policy proposals.
    - yolesaber 10y ago
      You know that it was two Republicans who started the bipartisan committee on climate change in the House, right? It's not a liberal issue. It's a reality that is happening NOW Your generalizations are laughable and are only indicative of the toxic thinking that has characterized this election.
    - jjuel 10y ago
      Right now you are only believing your side and think the other side is lies. Do you not realize how dense you are being right now?
ihsw 10y ago
Trump can go die in a hole for all I care, the MSM on the other hand glossed over the continuous revelations about the Clinton campaign. Time after time they refused to even cover the rampant corruption in the DNC, from how the Democratic nomination race was one-sided against Sanders, to how Clinton's very close relationship with Wall Street and her handling of Benghazi deeply damaged her credibility. I do have a preference for facts but what I do not have a preference for is a Fourth Estate that has been infiltrated and manipulated to support an elite cadre intent on pushing a certain agenda.
- drabiega 10y ago
  I don't exactly follow what people would call the mainstream media closely, but what I was exposed to mentioned all of these things (or at least the fact that she was accused of them), while their coverage of Trump that I saw consisted solely of unedited airing of him speaking. I sincerely don't understand the claims that the coverage was biased against Trump. If anything, it seemed to me that they were personally against him but in response to that they overcompensated and skewed the coverage too far in his direction.
  - titzer 10y ago
    +1 The media bent themselves into some really odd shapes to make Trump's continuous string of gaffes appear somehow "normal".
- bubbleRefuge 10y ago
  Sanders supporter who voted for Trump because of disdain for the Democrats and party corruption. For example, super delegates flipping states for HRC. Donna Brazile's shenanigans, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, Wall Street speeches, Clinton Foundation. Trump(and Bernie) created a consciousness/awakening in the country about the how the political system has been captured by the donor class and corporate interests. Hopefully, the Democratic party will purge itself and return to being the peoples party. If not we need a third party direct democracy organization driven by open source software and forums like HN which hold online debates and crowd source the decisions made by politicians.

You know when you're talking to a Trump supporter when they think that a preference for facts over lies amounts to a "close adherence to progressive extremist ideology". What a load of bullshit.

james0001 10y ago

You know you're talking to a person with "close adherence to progressive extremist ideology" when they assume the facts are on their side and the other side is just lies. Real scientific integrity eh?

taeric 10y ago
My personal backlash against this is from experience. I have been wrong. I will be wrong more in the future. Ignorance is normal. Nobody knows everything. However, ignorance is not to be embraced. Fact checking is not a liberal agenda. It is a general path to improvement.
yolesaber 10y ago
Yes, because only progressive extremists believe the facts are on their side. Say that out loud again, it sounds ridiculous.
- james0001 10y ago
  They have a greater tendency to do so, yes. Probably stems from the implicit assumption that since academia leans left, that these progressives will have the needed scientific support for their policy proposals.
  - yolesaber 10y ago
    You know that it was two Republicans who started the bipartisan committee on climate change in the House, right? It's not a liberal issue. It's a reality that is happening NOW Your generalizations are laughable and are only indicative of the toxic thinking that has characterized this election.
  - jjuel 10y ago
    Right now you are only believing your side and think the other side is lies. Do you not realize how dense you are being right now?

ihsw 10y ago

Trump can go die in a hole for all I care, the MSM on the other hand glossed over the continuous revelations about the Clinton campaign. Time after time they refused to even cover the rampant corruption in the DNC, from how the Democratic nomination race was one-sided against Sanders, to how Clinton's very close relationship with Wall Street and her handling of Benghazi deeply damaged her credibility. I do have a preference for facts but what I do not have a preference for is a Fourth Estate that has been infiltrated and manipulated to support an elite cadre intent on pushing a certain agenda.

drabiega 10y ago
I don't exactly follow what people would call the mainstream media closely, but what I was exposed to mentioned all of these things (or at least the fact that she was accused of them), while their coverage of Trump that I saw consisted solely of unedited airing of him speaking. I sincerely don't understand the claims that the coverage was biased against Trump. If anything, it seemed to me that they were personally against him but in response to that they overcompensated and skewed the coverage too far in his direction.
- titzer 10y ago
  +1 The media bent themselves into some really odd shapes to make Trump's continuous string of gaffes appear somehow "normal".
bubbleRefuge 10y ago
Sanders supporter who voted for Trump because of disdain for the Democrats and party corruption. For example, super delegates flipping states for HRC. Donna Brazile's shenanigans, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, Wall Street speeches, Clinton Foundation. Trump(and Bernie) created a consciousness/awakening in the country about the how the political system has been captured by the donor class and corporate interests. Hopefully, the Democratic party will purge itself and return to being the peoples party. If not we need a third party direct democracy organization driven by open source software and forums like HN which hold online debates and crowd source the decisions made by politicians.