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The new installer is nice. Installed just a C++ environment in 5 minutes!!

by satysin 10y ago

jjordan 10y ago
Wow that's huge. My last VS2015 install took hours.
- dleslie 10y ago
  I usually do it at the end of the day, and leave it running when I end work.
  - justin66 10y ago
    Not even an option in the Windows 10 era, where our computers might reboot at any time on short notice. (work computers with group policy tweaks are something of an exception, but still)
- satysin 10y ago
  Indeed. Plus I really like that I can install just the C++ tools and not all the .NET languages as well as I don't need or want those! The overall IDE speed is greatly improved as well. Looks like a good update so I am looking forward to the final soon.
Zitrax 10y ago
That sounds awesome. Is there an offline installer yet ?
- timsneath 10y ago
  Yes - the release notes describes our initial capabilities on that front: https://www.visualstudio.com/en-us/news/releasenotes/vs2017-relnotes#willow https://www.visualstudio.com/en-us/news/releasenotes/vs2017-... Essentially, you can run /layout on the installer to create an offline installation cache. We're working to add more capabilities here, but the fundamentals of the experience are in place.
  - kodfodrasz 10y ago
    Do you plan to package it to a sandboxed windows store app? Would it loose too much functionality that way? The garbage uninstalls left behind by earlier (and current) versions makes me think this might be a solution. Having it installable via the store would be not only convenient, but also a good promo for devs to package their other legacy apps.
    - timsneath 10y ago
      We have talked about it. Visual Studio is somewhat exceptional in its requirements, though: it chain installs other runtimes and platforms that update independently, it installs services and reconfigures the operating system (e.g. Hyper-V emulators), it updates system components such as the .NET Framework, and it installs privileged components like debuggers. On top of that, it offers a plug-in model with extensions that are updated independently of Visual Studio itself. So the Windows Store is not a viable option at this stage, although we are continuing to partner with our colleagues over in Windows to see if we can make progress on some of these challenges in future releases. In the meantime we are leveraging other Windows technology to minimize the system impact of an installation. And the work we've done to rebuild our setup engine sets us up well for the future as the Windows store enables support for our more advanced needs. Best wishes, Tim Sneath | Visual Studio Team
fetbaffe 10y ago
More importantly, how does the uninstaller work? Still tons of garbage left behind?
vram22 10y ago
How many GB did it use?
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The new installer is nice. Installed just a C++ environment in 5 minutes!!

by satysin 10y ago

The new installer is nice. Installed just a C++ environment in 5 minutes!!

jjordan 10y ago

Wow that's huge. My last VS2015 install took hours.

dleslie 10y ago
I usually do it at the end of the day, and leave it running when I end work.
- justin66 10y ago
  Not even an option in the Windows 10 era, where our computers might reboot at any time on short notice. (work computers with group policy tweaks are something of an exception, but still)
satysin 10y ago
Indeed. Plus I really like that I can install just the C++ tools and not all the .NET languages as well as I don't need or want those! The overall IDE speed is greatly improved as well. Looks like a good update so I am looking forward to the final soon.

Zitrax 10y ago

That sounds awesome. Is there an offline installer yet ?

timsneath 10y ago
Yes - the release notes describes our initial capabilities on that front: https://www.visualstudio.com/en-us/news/releasenotes/vs2017-relnotes#willow https://www.visualstudio.com/en-us/news/releasenotes/vs2017-... Essentially, you can run /layout on the installer to create an offline installation cache. We're working to add more capabilities here, but the fundamentals of the experience are in place.
- kodfodrasz 10y ago
  Do you plan to package it to a sandboxed windows store app? Would it loose too much functionality that way? The garbage uninstalls left behind by earlier (and current) versions makes me think this might be a solution. Having it installable via the store would be not only convenient, but also a good promo for devs to package their other legacy apps.
  - timsneath 10y ago
    We have talked about it. Visual Studio is somewhat exceptional in its requirements, though: it chain installs other runtimes and platforms that update independently, it installs services and reconfigures the operating system (e.g. Hyper-V emulators), it updates system components such as the .NET Framework, and it installs privileged components like debuggers. On top of that, it offers a plug-in model with extensions that are updated independently of Visual Studio itself. So the Windows Store is not a viable option at this stage, although we are continuing to partner with our colleagues over in Windows to see if we can make progress on some of these challenges in future releases. In the meantime we are leveraging other Windows technology to minimize the system impact of an installation. And the work we've done to rebuild our setup engine sets us up well for the future as the Windows store enables support for our more advanced needs. Best wishes, Tim Sneath | Visual Studio Team

fetbaffe 10y ago

More importantly, how does the uninstaller work? Still tons of garbage left behind?

vram22 10y ago

How many GB did it use?

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