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Windows Phone had UWP no? Where developers were concerned it didn't offer them anything compelling enough for that platform it seems. I think it would be even l

Windows Phone had UWP no? Where developers were concerned it didn't offer them anything compelling enough for that platform it seems. I think it would be even less so on Tizen even.

ocdtrekkie 10y ago
Tizen has other traits that might be more appealing, like the fact that it's open source. (And arguably, more open source than Android by far.) And if Samsung chose to start pushing Tizen phones over Android phones... bear in mind, Samsung is pretty much THE Android manufacturer, everyone else rides their coattails. Samsung is maybe the only company that can upset the apple cart as far as Google's concerned.
- Grazester 10y ago
  Without the Google Play Store Samsung's phones without Android are not going to sell.
  - dogma1138 10y ago
    In the west maybe not tho the Samsung store has tons of stuff. FYI many if not most android phones are sold without the google store today in emerging markets if you buy a <50$ in Africa you are not getting Google's App Store.
    - GFischer 10y ago
      To be honest, everyone sideloads the Play Store anyways. Heck, they sell it pre-sideloaded here in South America (and with pirated apps if you want them).
  - ocdtrekkie 10y ago
    I completely disagree. Most people buying Samsung phones are buying "Galaxy" not "Android". If Samsung can attract the app developers, people will come with. Tizen also already can run Android apps, and if they add .NET support, could probably run UWP apps potentially as well. Many of us have left Android or are looking to leave Android, and an open source competitor with wide application support from a good hardware manufacturer would be a compelling reason to jump. Personally I carry an old Windows Phone to escape the Google monopoly, but obviously for many moving to a closed platform is less ideal.
    - Grazester 10y ago
      You could disagree but when someone buys a Samsung device and realise it cant run their favourite app they are going to return it.
  - hulahoof 10y ago
    I disagree, while some may buy samsung as they see it as the top 'android' choice, I buy them because the displays look the nicest to me. I could care less what OS it was running, and I can't be the only one. (Why do you think people can iOS <-> android but not android <-> 3rd party? The adjustment is the same and not everyone buys a phone to play games with their friends)
    - Grazester 10y ago
      You are only saying this because you have all the same apps on Google Play Store as you do on the Apple App Store(basically). You would begin to care what OS you have real quick when it doesn't serve you very well and no one is talking about games here(Banking apps etc)
      - ocdtrekkie 10y ago
        It definitely didn't start that way. For a very long time, Android didn't have most of the apps iPhone users wanted, especially not back in 2009 when I got my Android. It took time, but it happened. Especially in the case of Tizen, where it could run Android apps, they'd really just need to convince the top 200 apps or so to port over to their store, and that'd get them started pretty well. The challenge is not getting the apps ported, the challenge is making devs want to port the apps. Sometimes that comes because everyone is talking about a new phone, but where Android started, was the developers of those apps themselves getting excited about it. But Android no longer caters to developers, so a platform like Tizen has a great opening there. As Windows Phone is closed source, it couldn't capitalize on this nearly as well.
        Grazester 10y ago
        This was 2009 and the smartphone was not a mature platform. People still used their computers on an everyday basis and didn't rely on their phones as much. This is not the case anymore. I work at a university where I have network statics for all devices connected and can tell how they are used and what they are used for. People expect certain things from their phones now and if they cant have it they would go somewhere else. You're in denial. "But Android no longer caters to developers" Can you explain what you mean by this?
jdmichal 10y ago
UWP was introduced in Windows (Phone) 10. Prior to that, apps could share backend code between Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8, but the UI had to be developed separately for each. The Windows Phone 8 to 10 transition lost a lot of people, myself being one of them. There are very few Windows Phone 10 handsets being produced, especially if you are looking for "flagship" quality.

Windows Phone had UWP no? Where developers were concerned it didn't offer them anything compelling enough for that platform it seems. I think it would be even less so on Tizen even.

ocdtrekkie 10y ago

Tizen has other traits that might be more appealing, like the fact that it's open source. (And arguably, more open source than Android by far.) And if Samsung chose to start pushing Tizen phones over Android phones... bear in mind, Samsung is pretty much THE Android manufacturer, everyone else rides their coattails. Samsung is maybe the only company that can upset the apple cart as far as Google's concerned.

Grazester 10y ago
Without the Google Play Store Samsung's phones without Android are not going to sell.
- dogma1138 10y ago
  In the west maybe not tho the Samsung store has tons of stuff. FYI many if not most android phones are sold without the google store today in emerging markets if you buy a <50$ in Africa you are not getting Google's App Store.
  - GFischer 10y ago
    To be honest, everyone sideloads the Play Store anyways. Heck, they sell it pre-sideloaded here in South America (and with pirated apps if you want them).
- ocdtrekkie 10y ago
  I completely disagree. Most people buying Samsung phones are buying "Galaxy" not "Android". If Samsung can attract the app developers, people will come with. Tizen also already can run Android apps, and if they add .NET support, could probably run UWP apps potentially as well. Many of us have left Android or are looking to leave Android, and an open source competitor with wide application support from a good hardware manufacturer would be a compelling reason to jump. Personally I carry an old Windows Phone to escape the Google monopoly, but obviously for many moving to a closed platform is less ideal.
  - Grazester 10y ago
    You could disagree but when someone buys a Samsung device and realise it cant run their favourite app they are going to return it.
- hulahoof 10y ago
  I disagree, while some may buy samsung as they see it as the top 'android' choice, I buy them because the displays look the nicest to me. I could care less what OS it was running, and I can't be the only one. (Why do you think people can iOS <-> android but not android <-> 3rd party? The adjustment is the same and not everyone buys a phone to play games with their friends)
  - Grazester 10y ago
    You are only saying this because you have all the same apps on Google Play Store as you do on the Apple App Store(basically). You would begin to care what OS you have real quick when it doesn't serve you very well and no one is talking about games here(Banking apps etc)
    - ocdtrekkie 10y ago
      It definitely didn't start that way. For a very long time, Android didn't have most of the apps iPhone users wanted, especially not back in 2009 when I got my Android. It took time, but it happened. Especially in the case of Tizen, where it could run Android apps, they'd really just need to convince the top 200 apps or so to port over to their store, and that'd get them started pretty well. The challenge is not getting the apps ported, the challenge is making devs want to port the apps. Sometimes that comes because everyone is talking about a new phone, but where Android started, was the developers of those apps themselves getting excited about it. But Android no longer caters to developers, so a platform like Tizen has a great opening there. As Windows Phone is closed source, it couldn't capitalize on this nearly as well.
      - Grazester 10y ago
        This was 2009 and the smartphone was not a mature platform. People still used their computers on an everyday basis and didn't rely on their phones as much. This is not the case anymore. I work at a university where I have network statics for all devices connected and can tell how they are used and what they are used for. People expect certain things from their phones now and if they cant have it they would go somewhere else. You're in denial. "But Android no longer caters to developers" Can you explain what you mean by this?

jdmichal 10y ago

UWP was introduced in Windows (Phone) 10. Prior to that, apps could share backend code between Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8, but the UI had to be developed separately for each. The Windows Phone 8 to 10 transition lost a lot of people, myself being one of them. There are very few Windows Phone 10 handsets being produced, especially if you are looking for "flagship" quality.